Feds state all kids, legal or not, entitled to school

[mama2littleman]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42938492...titled-school/

Ugh! This one really burns my britches. I used to teach in a border town and my school/property taxes were through the roof. The schools were over crowded and under funded in large part because of the large illegal population attending school there.

I don't believe in punishing children for their parents mistakes, but at some point you have to say enough is enough.

[shanzone2001]

I agree 100%. What is probably the most frustrating thing for me is that many of the children at the school where I teach that are serious behavior problems and/or receive special education (very costly to taxpayers) are illegal and do not have parents who contribute by paying taxes.
In addition, every child at my school, legal or not, has the opportunity for free breakfast, free lunch, and afterschool tutoring. I can't imagine what this costs, but it is a lot!
I agree that it is not the child's fault and education and food should be available to all, but considering the financial crisis our country is facing, it has to stop!

[Prismseed]

Do we call our standard of learning a luxury or a right? I believe the latter, the question then is how do we fund it?

I like the idea of fines and debtor's prisons and chain gangs or some sort of indentured servitude to ensure that illegals pay the same amount of tax for schools as citizens.

As for the free meals follow the money. Who makes the buck off this? It would be easier to overlook if it was a state or county enterprise that recirculated the funds amidst the locals. Mega-corp of outta state? Screw that!

As it stands citizenship to illegals is nigh impossible, if so a new means must be created to insure they pay a fair share.

Perhaps there should be founded a 'foriegn school' of sorts that is funded more by outside charity rather than goverment assistance.


It sucks, but what can be reasonably done about it?

[wwubben]

The better a person is educated the more productive they will likely be to our society.Legal or not we have to deal with them.

[shanzone2001]

Do we "have" to, is is it just morally right to do so?

[kirkmcquest]

Do all kids all over the world have the right to school? How about those in Bangladesh or Africa? Are we going to have to pay for the world's education?

[Laura Zone 10]

Originally Posted by shanzone2001

Do we "have" to, is is it just morally right to do so?

*Deep sigh*

Morally, yes, children should be protected and cared for.
HOWEVER......public schools, frown on "morality" issues.....so, it's a catch 22.

How about this.
My tax dollars pays for the building, and all the maintenance.
My tax dollars pays for the transportation to and from school, period.
My tax dollars pays for great teaches (and pay them well).
And that's it.

If the kids want to eat, their parents must pay.
If they want educated then their parents have to pay for the books (rental or buy out right).

There is no "morality" standard there. Just raw numbers and facts.

Now, if churches want to do 'back pack drives' or 'free sack lunch' programs, they may. But on their property, on their dime.

Guess what? Parents will FIND the money.
They find it for the 5.00 a pack cigerettes.
They find it for nails and hair extensions.
They find for drugs and booze.
They find it for McDonalds......and FUBU shoes.
Yeah baby.....they'll find it.


AND CAN SOMEONE PLEASE show me in the Constitution where it is a RIGHT? Thanks!!

[arabian knight]

Originally Posted by kirkmcquest

Do all kids all over the world have the right to school? How about those in Bangladesh or Africa? Are we going to have to pay for the world's education?

NO and should not be doing so now either. It is again another Government dumb move to KEEP illegals in this country NO MATTER WHAT.
They just refuse to send them back and secure the border.~!

[sticky_burr]

yes all local tax payers, even if as rental, are allowed to attend school. use to be almost impossible to attend out of district school or in other words a town you do not reside.

unfortunately thats how little radicals and suicide bombers are made in other lands only the rich get to goto school and muslim radical runs a "free" religious school and brain washes them. i guess goes for OTHER mission schools as well

the US constitution applys to united states of america people WE the people not anyone that happens to land there illegally , although you cant blame them for leaving . although who is left to FIX it where ever they come from

[SquashNut]

the liberals want them to be in school so they can indoctrinate them.

[Trixie]

It has been that way in Texas for over 30 years.

The moral thing would be to send them all home, punish the employers - you know enforce our laws.

That would be in the best interest of society.

Children from Mexico cross the border everyday and attend schools in this country. One school district did have a bus that waited at the bridge to pick them up every day.

[Trixie]

Originally Posted by SquashNut

the liberals want them to be in school so they can indoctrinate them.

If we don't stop trying to blame one political group for this, we are lost. That's how we got in this mess.

We had a Republican Governor of Texas, named George Bush, who presided over TExas, when huge amounts of illegals were coming here. He did nothing, he proposed nothing.

We had a Republican President of the US for 8 years, named George Bush, who presided over the nation when millions poured across the border. He did nothing, he proposed nothing - except AMNESTY. He said they were all 'just hardworking people looking for a better life' and they 'were all just doing the work no one else will do'.

We have to get real on this and realize this blame for this travesty doesn't rest with one political party - both are protecting it and encouraging it.

Was no one listening during Pres. Bush's term????

[Pearl B]

Ive been thinking lately that the people who pass laws like that, should be the ones to pay for it, not the taxpayers.

[Win07_351]

Taxing one man to educate another mans children is unBiblical.

[Laura Zone 10]

Originally Posted by SquashNut

the liberals want them to be in school so they can indoctrinate them.

Originally Posted by Trinity3

Ive been thinking lately that the people who pass laws like that, should be the ones to pay for it, not the taxpayers.

Originally Posted by Win07_351

Taxing one man to educate another mans children is unBiblical.

Right
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[Win07_351]

Originally Posted by wwubben

The better a person is educated the more productive they will likely be to our society.Legal or not we have to deal with them.

Sounds good. We'll send you the bill.

[MO_cows]

Sigh. So the feds say the local schools have to enroll the illegal students. Then if they don't speak English well enough, they have to hire special teachers just for them. Likely they are low income families, so they will qualify for free lunches, most schools have a breakfast program, too. The feds mandate all of this but the locals have to pay for it since most of any school's funding is local. This is just another example of why it would be a good idea to do away with the Dept of Education at the federal level and put the control back in the hands of the locals who know their own situation the best and are paying for it.

[MoonRiver]

One more thing for the Republicans to fix when they take back the Senate and the Presidency. I believe this can be overturned by Congress. Or possibly, this can be run through the courts again.

[wwubben]

Originally Posted by Win07_351

Taxing one man to educate another mans children is unBiblical.

Give me a book,chapter and verse please.

[Kiamichi Kid]

Time to take this country back.