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01/27/11, 02:25 AM
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1 in 8 couples of childbearing age is infertile
Fifteen states require that insurance plans cover infertility treatments. But coverage for treatment varies. Some plans cover fertility drugs to stimulate ovulation or intrauterine insemination (IUI, often called artificial insemination) but don't cover pricier assisted reproductive technology (ART) procedures, such as in vitro fertilization. Even if a plan covers IVF, it may cover only a certain number of cycles, or attempts, or cap the dollar amount it will pay for services.
The National Infertility Association. A majority of employers that didn't offer coverage cited cost concerns, but 91 percent of those that did offer it said it hadn't significantly increased their costs.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41254553...h-health_care/
48% of the women who have an abortion have had at least one previous abortion.
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01/27/11, 05:34 AM
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This reminds me of the thread on aid to the Congo, where there was famine in one part of the Congo and food crops rotting in the field in another part. And people think the Congo is a backward corrupt country and we are so intelligent.
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01/27/11, 06:12 AM
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You know...I'm not sure how randomly including abortion into a discussion of the increase in infertility is helpful.
I do know that it keeps a good many people far, far away from a thread.
Now, I do, bow out before we start blaming everyone who is infertile of having obtained abortions.
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01/27/11, 09:57 AM
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Here's an idea, instead of aborting babies, adopt them out to those who can't have any.  My DS was slated for abortion. Thank God his birthmom decided to place him for adoption instead through an agency called, "Lifeline". I can't even imagine my life without him and if I were physically able to, I'd take as many as they would give me.
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01/27/11, 12:00 PM
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This probably will not come out the way I intend, but I wonder if some of the issues that are cropping up with infertility can be connected with some of the different sometimes intricate medical procedures that have saved the lives of people with genetic issues....and then these genetic issues are perpetuated into the human gene pool, where a couple generations or so ago this would not have occurred?
In no way shape or form am I saying that saving lives is wrong if it is a possible thing to do. But, have we somehow began the endangerment of the human species by doing so? Not withstanding the endangerment we already have by the various pollutants and environmental toxins we are all exposed to in varying levels on a daily basis.....some of which can also be responsible for some of the fertility issues humans experience.
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I wonder if some of the issues that are cropping up with infertility can be connected with some of the different sometimes intricate medical procedures that have saved the lives of people with genetic issues....and then these genetic issues are perpetuated into the human gene pool, where a couple generations or so ago this would not have occurred?
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Survival of the fittest. Sure, I can see that.
Also, I think the abortion statistic was meant to show the irony, that some can and throw it away, while others try and try but aren't able.
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01/27/11, 12:23 PM
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Bingo!
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01/27/11, 12:24 PM
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I wonder if infertility increases can be linked to the fact that people are having children at later ages? and to the fact that we have so many chemicals and hormones in our food supply.
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One factor is the high rate of VD in teens and young adults. Certain infections cause infertility.
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I wonder if infertility increases can be linked to the fact that people are having children at later ages? and to the fact that we have so many chemicals and hormones in our food supply.
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Add to that, we take pills every time we fart and don't like the smell.
We shove pills and shots in our kids.
We are grossly (as a nation) overweight.
We spray our lawns with God knows what so a dandelion won't grow, then throw our kids out to play on it.
Really? Why do we even wonder?
FWIW
I know a gal who had 6 abortions, starting at age 14, and then 3 live births, starting at age 35.
I know a gal who had 1 abortion, at 15, and she is sterile because of scarring. (no not a back alley abortion either).
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Does the number include men who had vasectomies? Cause I've been infertile since I was 25.
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01/27/11, 12:56 PM
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I wonder if infertility increases can be linked to the fact that people are having children at later ages? and to the fact that we have so many chemicals and hormones in our food supply.
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I had a doc tell me that since I grew up in the country and had pig run off in our well that it coudl very well explain our fertility issues. Three of the four of us kids had fertility problems. The farmland that surronded our 3 acres was all fertilized by liquid hog manure. The "farm" next door had between 2,000 and 5,000 hogs there at any time. They stored the poo in large underground tanks and in the spring and fall they would set up these giant 'sprinklers' that would fertilize the farm land around us. That stuff ran off into our well and now we have fertility issues. The one brother who didn't have issues was also the one who had a 'thing' for bottled water. He claimed he hated the taste of the water at home and would often bring in water from my grandma's house. He would also fill a bottle as he left school and drink that at night.
Makes you wonder.
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01/27/11, 04:03 PM
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The world needs more infertility. We're roaring down on 7,000,000,000 with no end in sight despite resource shortages in many parts of the world and many more in the near future.
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01/27/11, 04:11 PM
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What percentage of the couples are gay?
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01/27/11, 04:13 PM
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I don't think gay would be a factor since they may still be able to reproduce, just not with their gay partner.
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01/27/11, 04:51 PM
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1 in 8 couples of childbearing age is infertile
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Perhaps that's the way it's meant to be.
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01/27/11, 06:16 PM
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You can thank Monsanto for that.
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01/27/11, 06:33 PM
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1 in 8 couples of childbearing age is infertile
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Any Ideal on how to find these women? Sure would save some money on a Vasectomy!
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01/27/11, 06:53 PM
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I was waiting for someone to blame Monsanto.
Fishead, correct! Without some "infertility", we
won't be able to feed them all in a few more years.
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01/27/11, 07:37 PM
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As a part of a couple with infertility issues, I find some of these comments so hurtful.
You just don't know what it is like unless you have experienced it yourself...
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