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Texas abortion rate still dropping
A report by the Guttmacher Institute, found 16.5 abortions per 1,000 women 15 to 44 in Texas in 2008, a decrease of 4 percent from the 17.3 abortions per 1,000 women in the state in 2005. Nationally, the rate increased 1 percent during the same time period.
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01/12/11, 05:41 AM
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http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/fb_induced_abortion.html
So the numbers have been dropping for the past 30 years...
Also it is interesting to see the facts in regards to who is getting the abortions, especially after hearing the 'facts' tossed around.
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01/12/11, 01:14 PM
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They dropped until 2005. They are no longer dropping.
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01/12/11, 03:40 PM
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Correct, but if one were to believe the hype often passed around as facts, you would be lead to believe that the number has risen every year.
It is correct to point out that from 2005 to 2008 the rate increased by 0.2, while dropping from 29.3 to 19.6 overall, still a great reduction, no?
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01/12/11, 06:16 PM
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Texas is getting more and more immigrants with a Catholic background. Only makes sense.
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01/12/11, 07:32 PM
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Snip:
"Thirty-seven percent of women obtaining abortions identify as Protestant and 28% as Catholic."
over a quarter are Catholics, so I don't know if that argument has much reasoning.
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01/12/11, 08:22 PM
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"Thirty-seven percent of women obtaining abortions identify as Protestant and 28% as Catholic."
over a quarter are Catholics, so I don't know if that argument has much reasoning.
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That figure doesn't say anything about ethnicity. Hispanic Catholics may very well be less likely to obtain an abortion. There is also the anchor baby angle.
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01/13/11, 01:51 AM
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That figure doesn't say anything about ethnicity. Hispanic Catholics may very well be less likely to obtain an abortion. There is also the anchor baby angle.
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I hadn't thought about the anchor baby angle - but Mexicans don't tend to mind large families. That is why I was surprised to see that over all 25% of all abortions are in the Hispanic community.
There are still a lot of Hispanics who are Catholic, but a large number are Baptists these days.
This is what gave me chills - From 1973 through 2008, nearly 50 million legal abortions occurred.[2]
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01/13/11, 09:16 AM
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This is what gave me chills - From 1973 through 2008, nearly 50 million legal abortions occurred.[2]
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On the other hand, the Freakonomics folks have offered this up as one of the primary reasons crime started dropping in the early 90s and continues to drop to this day.
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01/13/11, 10:11 AM
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The reasons the women give as to WHY they have abortions are really fascinating: they say that babies are too expensive and too hard to care for.
Perhaps the education in telling teenagers how hard it is to raise a child is having unexpected consequences.
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01/13/11, 10:32 AM
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The reasons the women give as to WHY they have abortions are really fascinating: they say that babies are too expensive and too hard to care for.
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Given how many of them already have kids and how many of them are of an age/socioeconomic group where it's exceedingly likely that their peers and relatives already have had kids at young ages, I'm going to guess most of them have 1st or 2nd hand experience of how expensive and demanding it can be to raise a kid?
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Given how many of them already have kids and how many of them are of an age/socioeconomic group where it's exceedingly likely that their peers and relatives already have had kids at young ages, I'm going to guess most of them have 1st or 2nd hand experience of how expensive and demanding it can be to raise a kid?
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Not where I live they do not!
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01/13/11, 03:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dwayne Barry
Given how many of them already have kids and how many of them are of an age/socioeconomic group where it's exceedingly likely that their peers and relatives already have had kids at young ages, I'm going to guess most of them have 1st or 2nd hand experience of how expensive and demanding it can be to raise a kid?
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I'm not sure that I understand what you are saying, but I think it has more to do with it being so easy, so accepted, even promoted.
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