Immigration dilemma, WWYD?

**Tiempo** · #1 11/30/10, 02:50 PM

http://www.visajourney.com/news/2010...gration-limbo/

Our Little Farm · #2 11/30/10, 03:06 PM

I think it is so sad that she cannot come here, a country her husband and father of her child lived for and died for.

The government should take this case and look at it closely to make sure all is true and give special circumstances visa to his wife and child.

After all, are they not letting so many stay in this country that are here illegally?

**Tiempo** · #3 11/30/10, 05:13 PM

This case certainly illustrates the pitfalls of enforcing immigration law to the letter, there has to be at least a little flexibility depending on circumstances.

Wags · #4 11/30/10, 05:15 PM

I agree there should be some flexibility. Especially given all the passes that others that are totally illegal are getting.

Sawmill Jim · #5 11/30/10, 05:52 PM

Just sneak her in by way of Mexico

Or make her look like a Muslim no pat down or anything . There is no reward for doing it the right way us poor working peons know that

**Tiempo** · #6 11/30/10, 06:03 PM

I did it the right way, set us back about 10k all told.

Sonshine · #7 11/30/10, 06:06 PM

I do think in a situation like this they should forgo the natural immigration laws. The reason being that if he had not been killed in combat, he would have brought her to the states as his wife, and she would have been able to gain citizenship. Especially since they have a child together and are legally married.

Yldrosie · #8 11/30/10, 06:09 PM

Yes, bring her here so we can have someone else and their dependents to support. When will we have enough foreigners here? When we are totally broke? Not to far to go on that.

salmonslayer · #9 11/30/10, 06:25 PM

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Yes, bring her here so we can have someone else and their dependents to support. When will we have enough foreigners here? When we are totally broke? Not to far to go on that.

Lets see, you want to deny that mans family access to what you have done nothing to earn because you were born here? Something tells me she would be a much better American that some because she knows the sacrifice that it took for that citizenship.

And oh by the way, most of us are foreigners.

Trixie · #10 11/30/10, 07:03 PM

My first question about this is - since when has our government decided to pay any attention to our immigration laws. They have been ignoring them for 30 years.
Something isn't right here - don't know if it's her story or our government suddenly realizing we do have immigration laws.

As far as earning citizenship, I'm not sure how one does that. We haven't all gone to war, we haven't all lost someone in a war. I'm thinking, though, that helping maintain and sustain this country, obeying the laws, paying our taxes, etc. etc. , does give us some rights as citizens.

As for this lady, if the story is true and if the child truly belongs to the soldier, than I'm thinking something should be done for them.

What is so asinine about this situation, is the fact every illegal who comes here and produces a baby, then has a citizen child and no chance ever of getting sent back to their home country - assuming our government had any desire to do so.

I remember reading about Chinese coming here for holidays to coincide with the birth of their child so it will be a citizen, and I'm sure they aren't the only ones.

Sawmill Jim · #11 11/30/10, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Yldrosie

Yes, bring her here so we can have someone else and their dependents to support. When will we have enough foreigners here? When we are totally broke? Not to far to go on that.

Would say her husband paid a big price

Also bet that these folks would not cost the tax payer a dime .Out of all the people i know none from Japan are on welfare

Yldrosie · #12 11/30/10, 07:18 PM

Salmon,
You have no idea who I am or anything about me. No, most of us "Here" are not foreigners. But it certainly is becoming that way. This country is on a rapid decline. Before 1965, it was a more homogenized society, that lived and built their lives here. The more foreigners arrive, the sorrier this place gets. I know, I was there then, and so were a lot of others on this board.

salmonslayer · #13 11/30/10, 07:50 PM

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No, most of us "Here" are not foreigners. But it certainly is becoming that way. This country is on a rapid decline. Before 1965, it was a more homogenized society, that lived and built their lives here. The more foreigners arrive, the sorrier this place gets. I know, I was there then, and so were a lot of others on this board.

Really, what tribe do you belong to? I was aroundfor the entire 1960s and that means nothing.... I was born in the U.S. but my grandfather was a pilot in WWII...but not a US citizen until after the war...---- imigrant. I am all for enforcing imigration laws but this womans husband made the supreme sacrifice for his country and it seems to me that ensuring his family is taken care of is the least we could do. But I am prejudiced, I just retired from the Army after 33 years of service in the Marine Corps and Army, 5 combat tours and my wife is a naturlized citizen (but she was a white Canadian so thats probably okay).

Maybe your right, kick the mans wife and kid to the curb because we all know those dead service members wives are the ones causing all the problems.

**Tiempo** · #14 11/30/10, 08:47 PM

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The more foreigners arrive, the sorrier this place gets.

Yes, people like myself and a lot of other HTers and their family members are dragging America to it's knees.

wr · #15 11/30/10, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Yldrosie

The more foreigners arrive, the sorrier this place gets.

I'd bet the farm that Sitting Bull and Crazy Horse felt the very same way:smiley-laughing013:

naturelover · #16 11/30/10, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Yldrosie

Salmon,
You have no idea who I am or anything about me. No, most of us "Here" are not foreigners. But it certainly is becoming that way.

If you aren't aboriginal then you are a foreigner just like all other immigrant foreigners or their descendants.

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Trixie · #17 12/01/10, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by wr

I'd bet the farm that Sitting Bull and Crazy Horse felt the very same way:smiley-laughing013:

Probably - as did the ones who were here before them.

The old 'what about the Indians' sounds really good - but serves no purpose.

Today is where we are, we aren't in the days of the Indians, today is where we need to start and try to find a solution to our problems.

But I always tell people who worry about the Indians, find out what tribe owned the land where you now live and give it back to them. I did my part to make up for it - I married one, and produced other little Indians - 6, to date.

There is some reason this story is being told and I don't know what it is.
Think about it, we have an open border with hundreds a day from all over the world pouring in - they can work, go to school, drive, get welfare and our government doesn't mind - even encourages it.

Yet for some reason they are denying entrance to a dead soldier's widow.
We need to look behind the story - what is their agenda?

We have some serious problems in this country - and we had better deal with them. One of them is the fact this country can just absorb so many people. Parts of this country have a fresh water problem, our air is polluted, our ground is polluted, or infrastructure needs help.

It is folly to continue with the same old ideas of early years that we can just keep taking in everyone who wants to come here. Even in earlier days, they were expected to at least try to assimilate. That isn't expected of them today, let alone demanded. We need a country that isn't just segments of different countries in one boundary - that is what our government is creating.

naturelover · #18 12/01/10, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Trixie

We need a country that isn't just segments of different countries in one boundary .

Why? What's different with what you already have?

America already is segments of different countries in one boundary, it always has been.

Are you just saying no more immigrants, period?

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**Shrek** · #19 12/01/10, 04:38 AM

Odds are this is a media rating piece similar to the one about the Mexican green card Sgt at Redstone Arsenal during the Clinton administration that surfaced during routine aged file reviews.

The local media blitz'd it with demands for POTUS intervention because the soldier's green card status was "in peril because while as a teenager his parents had returned him to Mexico to visit relatives and he had remained outside the U.S. for three days over the limit to keep his green card status valid and avoid deportation."

What the local media failed to report was that the soldier's multiple tour military career and level of training left his commander plenty of leeway to process a sponsorship of him without POTUS exemption or deportation. The soldier also opted to naturalize during the process.

As this Japenese woman is the widow of a U.S soldier and mother of a child recognized by the military, odds are if she chose to remain in the U.S. while the military processed the proper paperwork there would be no issue considered news worthy.

wendle · #20 12/01/10, 08:21 AM

Considering he did the right thing and married her because of a coming child, he was obviously trying to look out for his family. He can't do that now because he died for his country, so his country needs to follow his wishes and let her stay. She might have to go through all the paperwork and time, so be it. It sure is a shame government gives her a hard time when she is trying to do it all legally, but is willing to turn the other way when it comes to illegals sneaking across. Our country isn't about honor and decency any more, but get what you want any way you can legal or not.