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1 in 7 is poor
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/17/us...y.html?_r=1&hp
Poor for a family of four is $22,000.00 a year.
Of course if this is wages and there are a couple of eligible kids then the family gets $5,000.00 EIC.
Free school lunches too!
May qualify for medicaid.
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09/16/10, 09:01 PM
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I'm so poor that the next 28 people in a row are well off.
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09/16/10, 09:34 PM
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I imagine about 80% of the world's population would be thrilled to be poor in the USA.
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09/16/10, 09:50 PM
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Poor for a family of four is $22,000.00 a year.
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Only in the USA.
In many countries, you'd be RICH if your family had that much money.
But then they would say you should pay more tax
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A speech presented at a government hearing made by a New Mexico ranch wife began,
"We're not poor. We just don't have any money."
She went on to talk about being rich in heritage and culture and more, it was a great speech. It really stuck with me. She is right, being poor is more about your spirit and state of mind than your dollars. Laura Ingalls Wilder grew up very poor and her life story is admired world wide and she never felt deprived. She thought she had a great life. If people spent a little more time counting their blessings and making the most of what they do have, instead of craving every shiny new thing they see others have, they would be much happier. People without much money can still have a good life.
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09/16/10, 09:56 PM
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Being poor to me is reoccuring hunger, lack of electricity, indoor plumbing, heat and fresh water, no medical care, and/or non-serviceable clothes and shoes. I am amazed at how many people (including kids) who the government describes as poor have their own cell phone, computers with internet access and cable (usually with movie or sports channels).
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09/16/10, 09:57 PM
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But we're not talking about other countries...we're talking about THIS country. And wow, I knew we were poor but now I'm seeing we're dirt poor apparently. Our income last year was around 16K....and we're a family of 6.
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A speech presented at a government hearing made by a New Mexico ranch wife began,
"We're not poor. We just don't have any money."
She went on to talk about being rich in heritage and culture and more, it was a great speech. It really stuck with me. She is right, being poor is more about your spirit and state of mind than your dollars. Laura Ingalls Wilder grew up very poor and her life story is admired world wide and she never felt deprived. She thought she had a great life. If people spent a little more time counting their blessings and making the most of what they do have, instead of craving every shiny new thing they see others have, they would be much happier. People without much money can still have a good life.
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Very good post...thanks! And yes we're poor in cash but the kids are healthy, we're fed(yes by the government I know I'm terrible) and life is going okay.
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09/16/10, 10:09 PM
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I am amazed at how many people (including kids) who the government describes as poor have their own cell phone, computers with internet access and cable (usually with movie or sports channels)
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The Govt uses those arbitrary figures to justify "spreading the wealth" by taking MORE from the "rich"
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09/16/10, 10:13 PM
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Well now...... the government has their definitions...... and I have mine. There was a couple of years in my lifetime that I may have actually exceeded the governments income level of poverty. They would indeed be rare. That being said, I have never regarded my self as being poor. I have nearly always had a warm bed to sleep in, plenty to eat, and the warmth of a loving family and friends around me. Its true that I have spent a few times out in the cold, and hungry and no place to really call home, but those were very very limited phases in my life. Poverty is not about cash, bank accounts and possessions, poverty is about a state of mind. If one feels they are poor...... then it really makes no difference what assets they may have. I never felt poor, even when I was homeless and looking for a nice warm bridge to sleep under. I knew that tomorrow I would find an opportunity to improve my plight, and low and behold, the next day always provided that very thing in one form or another. The government has no clue as to what poverty really is, or how to deal with it. All I have ever seen them do is to reward "poor folks" by sending them a check just large enough to keep them poor. My advice to anyone who is looking to the government for a helping hand is simply to look no further than the ends of their arms. They will find much more help right there than they will ever find in a government run "program".
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Of course there is that much poverty, we are in the middle of a man made economic crash, it was meant to be that way. How much you wanna bet there are people doing a little jig after hearing this bit of information.
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Of course there is that much poverty, we are in the middle of a man made economic crash, it was meant to be that way. How much you wanna bet there are people doing a little jig after hearing this bit of information.
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Not picking on you SquashNut, but I find your post puzzling.
All economies are created by men and destroyed by men so it stands to reason that it's a man made economic crash. Economies rise and fall all the time - it's inevitable and it's not possible for any economy to always continue rising or always stay stable and never to fall. That's what economies just do.
Who do you think are the people that are doing the little jig and why do you think they'd be happy about it?
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09/16/10, 11:14 PM
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Murphy was an optimist ;)
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Of course there is that much poverty, we are in the middle of a man made economic crash, it was meant to be that way. How much you wanna bet there are people doing a little jig after hearing this bit of information.
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What makes you think this is the "middle" and not just the warning signs of the real crash yet to come?
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09/16/10, 11:40 PM
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Being poor to me is reoccuring hunger, lack of electricity, indoor plumbing, heat and fresh water, no medical care, and/or non-serviceable clothes and shoes. I am amazed at how many people (including kids) who the government describes as poor have their own cell phone, computers with internet access and cable (usually with movie or sports channels).
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Well, you have to take into consideration that OUR government is giving them cell phones. (wish their was an eye rolling icon)
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Being poor to me is reoccuring hunger, lack of electricity, indoor plumbing, heat and fresh water, no medical care, and/or non-serviceable clothes and shoes. I am amazed at how many people (including kids) who the government describes as poor have their own cell phone, computers with internet access and cable (usually with movie or sports channels).
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Be careful! TBTB will get wind of this & revise all the stats. Then it will be: "Obama has banished poverty"!!
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I imagine about 80% of the world's population would be thrilled to be poor in the USA.
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So we should be proud of these numbers! USA!USA!USA!.
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09/17/10, 07:49 AM
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I have always felt those "poverty figures" are just pulled out of the air. How can they figure that? The variables are many: do you own your home? rent? grow your food? farm? have high utility and heating costs? heat with your own cut wood? cook from scratch? buy everything? need gadgets? how many and what kind of vehicles? cost of living in your area? how many clothes do you buy? what do your kids need? medical costs? Etc. Etc.
I don't need but a fraction of what the world says I need. Guess I've been living in poverty for the last 15 years. But I don't feel the least bit poor - in fact I am richer than I have ever been. Just not money-rich.
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Today's generation equates being broke most of the time with being poor. You can be broke most of the time and still have enough of life's necessities. Being poor is not having enough of life's necessities. Of course, being from different generations we would debate necessities. Younger people would say cable and internet are necessities whereas an old pheart like me would say they are not. I would even be so bold as to say a TV is not a necessitiy. People could read books and listen to radio for news, weather and entertainment.
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