I guess he would know

primroselane · #1 08/29/10, 02:49 PM

President Barack Obama's controversial former pastor is referring to people who wrongly believe Obama is Muslim as ''psychopaths.'' The Rev. Jeremiah Wright delivered a fiery sermon Sunday at the New Millennium Church in Little Rock that largely criticized supporters of the Iraq war. Wright also defended the church's pastor, former Arkansas Court of Appeals Judge Wendell Griffen, for speaking out against the war.

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2010...ef=global-home

bluesky · #2 08/29/10, 04:31 PM

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100829/...iah_wright_ark

LITTLE ROCK, Ark. – The Associated Press has withdrawn its story about Rev. Jeremiah Wright. Wright referred to people who wrongly believe Obama is Muslim as "sycophants," not psychopaths.

A corrected story will be sent shortly.

The AP

EasyDay · #3 08/29/10, 05:04 PM

Sycophant: "A servile self-seeker who attempts to win favor by flattering influential people."

Not an oft-used word in my vocabulary.

But... WHAT? Calling Obama a muslim is flattering him?

I think the psychopath doesn't know what a sycophant is!

JuliaAnn · #4 08/29/10, 11:00 PM

The 'reverend' Wright (and I use the term loosely) is doing a very dangerous thing in preaching politics instead of the word of God. The Lord is listening to what Wright is saying while hiding behind the guise of a 'man of God'. His church isn't a church--it is a political indoctrination center.

JMD_KS · #5 08/30/10, 01:53 AM

I'm confused:
Is Obama a muslim or a christian? People complain he followed rev. Wright for 20-some-odd years, then say he is a muslim. Which is it??

7thswan · #6 08/30/10, 07:56 AM

Wright used to be a Muslim, but sinse one can't leave that religion, how's that work?

Txsteader · #7 08/30/10, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by EasyDay

Sycophant: "A servile self-seeker who attempts to win favor by flattering influential people."

Not an oft-used word in my vocabulary.

But... WHAT? Calling Obama a muslim is flattering him?

I think the psychopath doesn't know what a sycophant is!

Exactly. The statement doesn't make any sense when 'psychopath' is replaced with 'sycophant'.

NoClue · #8 08/30/10, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by 7thswan

Wright used to be a Muslim, but sinse one can't leave that religion, how's that work?

People can and do leave Islam all the time.

TheMartianChick · #9 08/30/10, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by 7thswan

Wright used to be a Muslim, but sinse one can't leave that religion, how's that work?

When was Wright a Muslim?

EasyDay · #10 08/30/10, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by NoClue

People can and do leave Islam all the time.

But, it IS an act punishable by death. Not all make it out alive.

TheMartianChick · #11 08/30/10, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by JuliaAnn

The 'reverend' Wright (and I use the term loosely) is doing a very dangerous thing in preaching politics instead of the word of God. The Lord is listening to what Wright is saying while hiding behind the guise of a 'man of God'. His church isn't a church--it is a political indoctrination center.

There are many people who don't quite understand the roots of the black church... Back in the days, the churches were almost the only mechanism for achieving social justice. That is where Dr. Martin Luther King and the Civil Rights Movement came from and why there were so many ministers as community leaders. If preachers had stayed out of politics, then there likely would have been few advances in Civil Rights.

Across America, whenever there is a terrible crime perpetuated against black people, the police department is the last one to fight for justice. It is usually churches and faith-based groups that apply pressure to the situation to bring attention to the matter and try to gain some measure of justice.

The playing field is not yet level... Until it is, the black churches will continue to mix religion and politics. If they hadn't done so in the past, then I wouldn't have had the opportunities that I was afforded.

NoClue · #12 08/30/10, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by EasyDay

But, it IS an act punishable by death. Not all make it out alive.

It's punishable by death in some countries, but not all. Still, there are lots who leave Islam never to return.

I know Christian missionaries in Pakistan, and they have a tough job. Still, they do convert Muslims, and particularly those who manage to leave for more hospitable countries most definitely have left Islam. Those who stay usually survive by not drawing attention to themselves.

7thswan · #13 08/30/10, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMartianChick

When was Wright a Muslim?

Long time ago I guess, now he is Black Liberation Theology, which is Marxist. I'm going to go verify this again tho..

gwhilikerz · #14 08/30/10, 10:44 AM

Would someone explain "Social Justice" to me?

Sonshine · #15 08/30/10, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by NoClue

People can and do leave Islam all the time.

According to the Koran, if they do they are to be put to death.

Sonshine · #16 08/30/10, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMartianChick

There are many people who don't quite understand the roots of the black church... Back in the days, the churches were almost the only mechanism for achieving social justice. That is where Dr. Martin Luther King and the Civil Rights Movement came from and why there were so many ministers as community leaders. If preachers had stayed out of politics, then there likely would have been few advances in Civil Rights.

Across America, whenever there is a terrible crime perpetuated against black people, the police department is the last one to fight for justice. It is usually churches and faith-based groups that apply pressure to the situation to bring attention to the matter and try to gain some measure of justice.

The playing field is not yet level... Until it is, the black churches will continue to mix religion and politics. If they hadn't done so in the past, then I wouldn't have had the opportunities that I was afforded.

I would agree, except change the term "roots of the black church" to "black liberation theology".

NoClue · #17 08/30/10, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Sonshine

According to the Koran, if they do they are to be put to death.

In spite of this, many do and live to tell the tale.

EasyDay · #18 08/30/10, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by TheMartianChick

When was Wright a Muslim?

I dont know that he ever was a muslim.
He has a Master's in islamic studies, but that doesn't make him a muslim.
He has allowed Hamas to publish in his church bulletins, but that also does not make him a muslim.

So, he may not have ever been a muslim, but he supports muslim terrorist groups.

TheMartianChick · #19 08/30/10, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by EasyDay

I dont know that he ever was a muslim.
He has a Master's in islamic studies, but that doesn't make him a muslim.
He has allowed Hamas to publish in his church bulletins, but that also does not make him a muslim.

So, he may not have ever been a muslim, but he supports muslim terrorist groups.

I'm at work so please excuse the source... I didn't see anything about Islamic Studies in the education section.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremia...litary_service

As far as Hamas is concerned...He allowed someone representing their views to present their side of the issue and conflicts. It seems to be an example of trying to be fair and balanced. Our media doesn't often provide much information about what the "other" side sees.

7thswan · #20 08/30/10, 02:41 PM

Reverend Jeremiah Wright, ladies and gentlemen, used to be a Muslim, according to the ... Obama wins the nomination, he needs to understand that this issue [of Rev. Wright] goes well beyond Clinton partisans. Now is the time to address these questions, not later. Clearly Mr. Obama does not share the extremist views of Rev.
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