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08/23/10, 05:47 PM
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Philadelphia requiring bloggers $300 business license
Wait until they get those small farmers/homesteader blogging ...
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08/23/10, 05:50 PM
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A city taxing something is NOT capitalism. Draconian yes, in this example.
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08/23/10, 06:00 PM
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A city taxing something is NOT capitalism. Draconian yes, in this example.
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Cities are nothing more than corporations in disguise.
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08/23/10, 08:03 PM
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Let the games begin...I know a few folks up here whose butt almost swallowed their desk chair when that hit the news; kinda had to laugh at them. "What, you've been making money and not taxed thus far, consider it your windfall, they will want whatever they (gov) can get."
No different that attempting to tax yard sales etc. (which to me would be a blatent case of double (tripple, quadruple if sold over and over again) taxation...is that even a word, or simply a bottomless hole to pull money from?
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08/23/10, 08:11 PM
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No, a city is a government. A lesson to all those who want government control over every aspect of your life: They want your money first.
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08/23/10, 08:22 PM
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I can't really remember the last time a city produced a product.
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08/23/10, 08:26 PM
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I wonder if it's all bloggers or just those that disagree with the government?
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08/23/10, 08:43 PM
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it's any business, they just happened to bother a blogger in this example.
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08/24/10, 01:33 AM
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No, a city is a government. A lesson to all those who want government control over every aspect of your life: They want your money first.
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a government is a corporation in disguise. It has every aspect of a corporation, just named differently.
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I can't really remember the last time a city produced a product.
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they do "provide" products and services ...
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08/24/10, 02:20 AM
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I wonder if it's all bloggers or just those that disagree with the government?
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All who use their "blogs" to communicate - as in your first amendment - well, maybe NOT "free" speech, but priced reasonable for easy taxation.
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08/24/10, 07:41 AM
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a government is a corporation in disguise. It has every aspect of a corporation, just named differently.
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Nonsense. Does a corporation have the right to force you to buy their product? Only government has that right. Can a corporation take away your house if you don't buy their products? Of course not. But a government can. Can a corporation jail you or fine you for not going along with the corporate program? Nope. But the government can.
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08/24/10, 04:33 PM
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Nonsense. Does a corporation have the right to force you to buy their product? Only government has that right. Can a corporation take away your house if you don't buy their products? Of course not. But a government can. Can a corporation jail you or fine you for not going along with the corporate program? Nope. But the government can.
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Nonsense is right.
Who owns the government? CORPORATIONS run this country, that is why we are forced to participate in commerce using the "government" to enforce laws that corporations want and need to survive.
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08/24/10, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by CrashTestRanch
Nonsense is right.
Who owns the government? CORPORATIONS run this country, that is why we are forced to participate in commerce using the "government" to enforce laws that corporations want and need to survive.
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That's why we need to stick together, get rid of the corruption and make sure things like the Obama regime never happen again.
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08/24/10, 04:52 PM
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If the blogger has a tip jar or sells articles they are in business. If you are in business you must be licensed.
When I was flea marketing we were business licensed as peddler vendors. At the same time in one of our licensed market regions individuals running yard sales or clearing out their attic junk through the local flea market were required to register for a free permit up to a max of two per year to prevent abuse of the $45 a year peddler vendor license and required sales tax there by unscrupelous flea marketeers who would claim to be yard sales to avoid purchasing a business license.
Here local grown farmer market sellers are required to get a free permit to prevent commercial produce vendors from trucking in Mexico grown produce and choking out the local producers sales tax free farmers market business and protecting customers who wish to support the local agriculture market.
Odds are theres a lot more to this blogger licensing thing than is being reported and it may be a sizable tax evasion incident that has prompted the licensing campaign.
As we have often heard on discussion boards, we only see one side of the arguement when reading one report of the incident in question.
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08/25/10, 08:17 AM
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Filthadelphia is in no way shape or form a Capitalist mecca..They are so far left that I'm surprised that Independence Hall is still standing..
Their city government is just as corrupt as the mafia, in fact I would hazard a guess and say more corrupt. At least there is some honor in the mafia..
They would rather give Comcast money to build a new building then the help pay for their run down mass transit system..
The Mayor's office is lavish to the point of extreme, all at taxpayers expense.
The City government of Filthy is about as socialist as they come..
I don't know of any other city government that is so anti freedom, but would guess that Scranton would be close..
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08/25/10, 03:51 PM
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I can't really remember the last time a city produced a product.
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Some cities compost yard wastes into salable packages of compost. Some sell zoo animal manures as fertilizer. Some (or counties) sell methane obtained from tapping into methane produced by the local landfill. Some have plasma waste burners and sell the end products.
Yes, some cities do actually produce a product to sell via the waste or whatever of others.
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08/25/10, 09:07 PM
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Perhaps they will all move to a cheaper town to do business. Actually you can be in several other states within minutes, so why put up with such nonsense?
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08/26/10, 09:58 AM
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The gov't probably spent $500.00 to try and get the $300.00 tax.
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08/27/10, 03:51 PM
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Under federal taxation laws hobbies cannot be taxed unless they make a certain amount after expenses. Hard to believe there would be any profit to that $50 after paying for the computer, internet, and electric bill.
Stupid blogger, she should have known better than to claim that $50 as income on her taxes. (where is that sarcasm smiley????)
Each state has it's own rules about selling and being considered a business. You may need a peddler vendor license to sell used and untaxed items in Alabama. In Ohio you do not need a license to sell used items unless you are making a profit and are doing it as a business (with the purpose of making money and your sales are a large portion of your income).
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08/27/10, 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Shrek
If you are in business you must be licensed.
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There is no involuntary servitude. You must voluntarily agree into it. If you are forced then the action is not voluntary.
The simple words "NO CONTRACT" still have considerable weight anywhere you go.
Don't go around saying "you must be licensed" because you just decided it was easier to get a license than to handle the hassle of standing up for yourself.
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