Good thing the guns didn't go off!

EasyDay · #1 06/18/10, 08:36 AM

Someone may have gotten hurt!

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...wyzBwD9GD56SO0

Do they even MAKE plastic army men with no weapons?
A daily dose of PC-ness can turn anyone into an idiot, so I stay away from it!

beowoulf90 · #2 06/18/10, 09:10 AM

If this article is true, then the teacher and the Principal and the Superintendent need fired!

This is PC gone bad.

I think they (the above) should be tested for illegal drug use (for using PC), or at the least be convicted for "lack of common sense".

These plastic Army men were in no way able to harm anyone, unless they were afraid that they would swallow them, then they become a chocking hazard..

This is so stupid I think they all should lose their teach certs...

NoClue · #3 06/18/10, 09:19 AM

There are those guys with the binoculars and the mine-sweepers, although they might have side-arms. It's been a long time since I've looked at one up close.

beowoulf90 · #4 06/18/10, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by NoClue

There are those guys with the binoculars and the mine-sweepers, although they might have side-arms. It's been a long time since I've looked at one up close.

The ones with binoculars have sidearms.. Well at least mine do...

watcher · #5 06/18/10, 09:42 AM

Hey, the people demanded a "zero tolerance" policy and that's what they got. With such a policy there is no room for debate nor common sense only the enforcement of the rule. And that rule says nothing which shows or represents a weapon. Now you have to agree that a plastic Army guy with a rifle, machine gun or handgun violates that rule therefore the hat MUST be banned under the "zero tolerance" policy the people of the school district most like applauded when it was put into effect.

Heck, the principal should get a raise for enforcing the rule even when it was not popular.

Put another way, if people demand and get stupid rules and laws they should not be surprised when something stupid happens because of those rules and laws are enforced.

beowoulf90 · #6 06/18/10, 10:03 AM

Well I for one never demanded the "zero tolerance" carp.

If they can't use "common sense" then they shouldn't be teaching or directing anything..

Wayne02 · #7 06/18/10, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by EasyDay

Do they even MAKE plastic army men with no weapons?

Yep, and they are equipped with a kind word, a friendly smile, a sunny disposition, a camelbak filled with hand sanitizer (for all the hand-holding they do), and a training manual written by Dr. Phil.

They are however prone to long bouts of depression as they continually get their butts kicked by the plastic army men who do have weapons, and no amount of reference to the Dr. Phil training manual seems to help the situation.

dezingg · #8 06/18/10, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by watcher

Put another way, if people demand and get stupid rules and laws they should not be surprised when something stupid happens because of those rules and laws are enforced.

I agree, the rule requires the reaction they received. If they don't like the reaction, get the rule changed.

**Shrek** · #9 06/18/10, 12:40 PM

Stupid is as stupid does. Small wonder private school attendence and homeschooling are both gaining popularity.

watcher · #10 06/18/10, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by beowoulf90

Well I for one never demanded the "zero tolerance" carp.

If they can't use "common sense" then they shouldn't be teaching or directing anything..

But if you don't have a hard and set rule you open yourself up to lawsuits.

FeralFemale · #11 06/18/10, 07:32 PM

The ACLU is on the kid's side!

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Also Friday, the Rhode Island chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union said it sent a letter to Coventry Superintendent Kenneth DiPietro saying the school's policy was an unconstitutional violation of students' free speech. It called on the district to revise the policy.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/06/18...est=latestnews

**Roadking** · #12 06/18/10, 11:04 PM

"Lt. Gen. Reginald Centracchio, the retired head of the Rhode Island National Guard, gave 8-year-old David Morales a medal called a challenge coin during an appearance on WPRO-AM's John DePetro show."

"Centracchio also gave David a certificate that allows him to call himself a brigadier general."
The rest of the story here...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100618/...rmy_hat_banned
Matt

EasyDay · #13 06/21/10, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Wayne02

Yep, and they are equipped with a kind word, a friendly smile, a sunny disposition, a camelbak filled with hand sanitizer (for all the hand-holding they do), and a training manual written by Dr. Phil.

They are however prone to long bouts of depression as they continually get their butts kicked by the plastic army men who do have weapons, and no amount of reference to the Dr. Phil training manual seems to help the situation.

LOL, and your second paragraph explains why I don't own unarmed plastic soldiers!

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Originally Posted by FeralFemale

The ACLU is on the kid's side!

What??? They finally got one right?

beowoulf90 · #14 06/21/10, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by watcher

But if you don't have a hard and set rule you open yourself up to lawsuits.

So if you are doing 56 mph down the highway and the speed limit is 55 mph you think you should be fined?
Or, If you step off the side walk on the wrong side of the crosswalk line you should be fined?

Common sense has to play into it somewhere, but apparently liberal educators (and I use the term educators loosely) don't have any common sense.

I also believe that is because to many liberal judges allow frivolous lawsuits to proceed... For instance the woman who sat a hot coffee between her legs. That is just stupid to begin with! So that suit never should have been allowed.

Now if you stop those frivolous lawsuits and actually hold a person responsible for their action..

EasyDay · #15 06/21/10, 12:09 PM

Bingo, beowoulf.

Frivolous lawsuits have such wide ramifications. ALL judicial costs go up (insurance, court fees, fines, etc.) because too many judges don't have the cajones to just say, "Stop being stupid... your case is dismissed!". Of course, the judges are trying to help out their fellow lawyer buddies by allowing these cases to play out. No common sense. No honesty. No personal responsibility. It's all about the money.

Cornhusker · #16 06/21/10, 01:39 PM

This is what happens when liberals run amok.
Stoopid runamokers.

Jenni979 · #17 06/21/10, 03:06 PM

Does anyone remember the poor kid who got suspended for playing during recess? The poor kids only made a "gun" out of his thumb and forefinger, while playing robbers with his other schoolmates...

I think he was about 6 years old...

I think we need to rethink "zero tolerance"... In my opinion, there does need to be some room for making a comon sense judgement.

watcher · #18 06/21/10, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by beowoulf90

So if you are doing 56 mph down the highway and the speed limit is 55 mph you think you should be fined?
Or, If you step off the side walk on the wrong side of the crosswalk line you should be fined?

Not the same let's keep it in the school system. Say they have their rule which says no type of display of any firearms of any type. Now they let this little boy wear his hat with the plastic army guys with firearms. Next week some kid wears a hat with a picture of an armed gang member on it and the school suspends him. How long do you think it would take for there to be 20 lawsuits filed because the second kid was discriminated against. After all the school ignored the rule for one kid but didn't for the second kid therefore its clear the school was 'playing favorites'.

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Originally Posted by beowoulf90

Common sense has to play into it somewhere, but apparently liberal educators (and I use the term educators loosely) don't have any common sense.

The rule most likely was enacted as a result of pressure from parents. People demand that something be done and a "zero tolerance policy" sounds great. If you get caught you get punished. They don't think anything about it anymore until it comes back and bites them in a case like this.

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Originally Posted by beowoulf90

I also believe that is because to many liberal judges allow frivolous lawsuits to proceed... For instance the woman who sat a hot coffee between her legs. That is just stupid to begin with! So that suit never should have been allowed.

Now if you stop those frivolous lawsuits and actually hold a person responsible for their action..

I agree somewhat. Judges can not prevent lawsuits to be filed if the politicians have written the law in such a way to allow it. If the law makes a place responsible if someone is injured when their product is misused then a judge has no choice but allow someone to sue. If you want to stop such law suits you have to first change the laws. But you are not going to be able to change these laws as long as the pols can use them to get elected. Can't you see the ad now? "My opponent says you shouldn't be able to sue when a company makes a bad produce. He wants to take away your right to sue!! Vote for me and I will protect your right to sue when an evil company does something to harm you."

beowoulf90 · #19 06/22/10, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by watcher

Not the same let's keep it in the school system. Say they have their rule which says no type of display of any firearms of any type. Now they let this little boy wear his hat with the plastic army guys with firearms. Next week some kid wears a hat with a picture of an armed gang member on it and the school suspends him. How long do you think it would take for there to be 20 lawsuits filed because the second kid was discriminated against. After all the school ignored the rule for one kid but didn't for the second kid therefore its clear the school was 'playing favorites'.

The rule most likely was enacted as a result of pressure from parents. People demand that something be done and a "zero tolerance policy" sounds great. If you get caught you get punished. They don't think anything about it anymore until it comes back and bites them in a case like this.

I agree somewhat. Judges can not prevent lawsuits to be filed if the politicians have written the law in such a way to allow it. If the law makes a place responsible if someone is injured when their product is misused then a judge has no choice but allow someone to sue. If you want to stop such law suits you have to first change the laws. But you are not going to be able to change these laws as long as the pols can use them to get elected. Can't you see the ad now? "My opponent says you shouldn't be able to sue when a company makes a bad produce. He wants to take away your right to sue!! Vote for me and I will protect your right to sue when an evil company does something to harm you."

I would hazard a guess that the "rule" is no firearms on school property, but the School Admin and teachers, superintendents have stretched the rule to include pictures, or making your hand and fingers into the shape of a gun...

So unless they have the Picture rule, they've got no standing and are just plain idiots for suspending the kid.. But then the liberal education system is famous for making an issue out of non-issues..

Next paragraph,
Here again I would bet that if it was parents calling for the "zero tolerance" rules, it was only a few and not a majority. But again the liberal education system has made an issue out of a non-issue..

Now as to our last paragraph..

Judges can't stop the suit from being filed, but they can throw the suit out for being frivolous.
While judges aren't suppose to make law from the bench, the liberal judges have and continue to do so.. This is why a lot of these frivolous suits have managed to get through the court systems..

For instance lets go back to the coffee woman, Yes the fast food joint had been told about the temp of the coffee more then once. Yes they should be fined for not keeping at the proper temp.. No they shouldn't be held liable for the stupidity of the woman who bought the coffee.

It was her decision to mishandle the coffee and put it between her legs while driving and without a lid, not the fast food joint.

The laws do say "if the product is defective", but they don't take into account "PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY". But then again who is making these laws? The same criminals that profit from them...

So you are correct the laws do need to be changed. But up to this point that "ain't gonna happen" We also need to stop the judges from lying to the jury. It is legal for the jury to find a person not guilty if they think the law is wrong, but judges continually tell juries that they have to decide the case based on the law..

PyroDon · #20 06/22/10, 01:44 PM

You folks really need to get off the its all the liberals fault kit , there were just as many if not more conservatives screaming Zero tollerence after Columbine.
In fact Zero tollerence is a conservative talking point zero on drugs and so forth three strikes .
Its not a liberal conservative thing PC is coming from extremes in both camps .
Im constantly being told by conservatives that Im evil because I have taught my kids to respect firearms and how to use them instead of keeping them under lock and key .