Are Diesel Cars The Coming Thing? - Page 2

Darren · #31 08/15/12, 12:23 AM

[QUOTE=Marshloft;6080284][QUOTE=jwal10;6078148]The state here runs many CNG (compressed natural gas) cars in their fleet, mostly in large cities. A refueling station is very complicated and expensive. You can buy one of the cars at auction on Ebay cheap....James/

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And what idiot engineer made it so complicated? As I stated before,, its not rocket science.
So someone wiser than us made the delivery system of natural gas expensive,, ok,,, and then somone wiser than us,, made refueling complicated,, ok,, I get it now.
dipstiks. all of em.

It's not complicated.

It's just a multistage compressor that is used to produce the high pressures needed to store enough natural gas to get a reasonable driving range. The same general type of compressor is used to fill tanks with welding gases, fill medical oxygen cylinders, fill the self contained breathing apparatus that firefighters use, fill SCUBA tanks, and fill the tanks that supply the gas for paintball guns.

If a farmer can cobble something together and run his truck and tractor on natural gas, it isn't rocket science. Nor is it complicated.

BTW, just because something may be expensive, doesn't mean it's complicated.

Marshloft · #32 08/15/12, 02:08 AM

Darren,,, is there any difference between re-fueling natural gas vs propane?
My Dad had a propane tank in the back of his pickup, we ran on propane and gas in his pickup. And used the tank to fill the tractor in the fields. It was a duel purpose tank.

Darren · #33 08/15/12, 08:27 AM

Since both are compressed gasses, the procedure should be similar. The difference would be that since naural gas has an underground distribution network, it would be simple to install a natural gas (compressors) filling station anywhere you had a suitable supply line. Existing gasoline retailers could also install a CNG fill station.

artificer · #34 08/15/12, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Marshloft

Darren,,, is there any difference between re-fueling natural gas vs propane?
My Dad had a propane tank in the back of his pickup, we ran on propane and gas in his pickup. And used the tank to fill the tractor in the fields. It was a duel purpose tank.

Propane is a liquid, and the NG is a high pressure gas. Pressures are around 300psi for LP vs. 3000psi, so CNG tanks are like welding gas tanks.

Michael

poorboy · #35 09/02/12, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by clovis

FWIW, I think that the Chevy Cruze diesel will sell well in farming communities.

If that is the case, I bet very few of them will be filled up at a retail gas pump...LOL.

No one I know wants to be caught with off road diesel in their car or truck, the penalty(fine) is g normus!!!

watcher · #36 09/03/12, 08:42 AM

Diesel has a major problem to overcome with American consumers, the odor. It lingers and it stinks. You spill a little gasoline on you pants and it smells but its almost sweet plus its gone in a couple of hours. Spill a little diesel on your pants it stinks and it will stink for days. Ditto for getting it on your hands.

clovis · #37 09/03/12, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by poorboy

No one I know wants to be caught with off road diesel in their car or truck, the penalty(fine) is g normus!!!

The fine is indeed huge, from what I understand.

But, I bet, if the truth were known, there is a ton of tax-free diesel being burned every day in passenger vehicles.

FWIW, the rumor going around here is that the state police are pulling pick-ups with farm plates over, and sticking tanks. Is it true they can impound the truck and ticket the driver for over $1,000, or is that just legend?

clovis · #38 09/03/12, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by watcher

Diesel has a major problem to overcome with American consumers, the odor. It lingers and it stinks. You spill a little gasoline on you pants and it smells but its almost sweet plus its gone in a couple of hours. Spill a little diesel on your pants it stinks and it will stink for days. Ditto for getting it on your hands.

Very good point!!!!