Kits have sores around mouth...

the drug bottle will tell you how many units are in a cc. So, you then take the units per pound ( provided you have already divided the hundredweight dosage into dosage per pound pound!!!)_ well, tlet me see if I can kinda illusteate---

Dosage: 2500 units per 100 pounds
Drug concentration-1575 units per cc
Animal weight:7 pounds....

Okay, here is the math flow:

2500 divided by 100= 25 units per pound.

Animal needs 7 x 25 units, or 175 units.

Next:

1575 divided by 175 =9

fortuneately, you only need to dose this animal with 0.9cc!

And in High School you never thought you would need to learn algebra!!!

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Thanks Terry, yeah, that made all kinds of no sense though. Math genius I'm not!

So, If my bottle of Pen says its 150,000 units of pen g benzathine & 150,000 units of pen g procaine per cc, and the dosage is 45,000 units per pound, then that is, ummmmm, 315,000 units for a seven pound animal, right? So about 1cc? Guess I did it right after all, although the Merek site says to give that dosage once a week for three weeks, and I did every other day for like 10 days, can you say overkill? :O

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All of the kits seem fine now, with no medication given at all. It seems like whatever it was ran through and then gone.
The buck however, still has 1 small scab at the opening of his penis.

Maggie....my computer would not allow me to open the links you provided. This old thing is on its last legs and I currently dont have $600 to purchase another. From what you read, if it IS syphilis, or any other bacteria for that matter. can I safely breed if neither of the rabbits are showing any signs?

Okay, GB, here's one more cut-and-paste for you. I am NOT qualitifed to endorse any course of action, since I have never had to treat any of my rabbits for serious ailments, but this seems to provide a concise and complete treatment, with dosage in cc's given. Hope this helps. Here's the link for anyone who may want it:
http://islandgems.net/vd.html

Rabbit Vent Disease (Syphilis) or Hutch Burn?

by Rick Stahl
re-posted with permission
Rabbit Syphilis or Vent Disease is caused by a spirochete, Treponema cuniculi. This disease CANNOT be cured with topical application of any medication, even penicillin. That MAY clear up the blisters common to this disease but it will not kill the organism in the rabbit's blood stream, ONLY parental treatment with antibiotics will.

Mastitis ointment is very efficient in the treatment of Hutch Burn, very often confused with Vent Disease but definitely NOT the same condition.

Vent Disease, which looks like small white pimples is more accurately named Rabbit Syphilis, is a true venereal disease, caused by spirochete (similar to that causing human syphilis) in the blood stream. Hutch Burn is a relatively minor affliction, a localized irritation and inflammation of the vent/anal region due to urine (which is normally not acid BTW). Most often seen in does, it can be from dribbling of urine and/or from sitting on dirty cage floors. Best treatment is antibiotic ointment and regular cage floor cleaning.

These two conditions are often confused and the ONLY definite differentiation is by dark-field microscopy of scrapings of the lesions by a Vet.

The recommended treatment for Vent Disease is with Dura Pen (Bi Cillin or Pen BP-48) these are a combination of Procaine Penicillin G and Penicillin G Benzathine, stays in bloodstream longer than Procaine Pen G by itself. It is recommended that it be given once a week for three weeks. This a highly contagious and can be spread by contact and during breeding, all rabbits, including virgin offspring should be treated. Dosage is 20,000 IU per pound of body weight (1/15 cc per pound) given Subcutaneously (SQ). This medication is of course not listed for use in rabbits but in use with cattle it is listed as SQ ONLY. The use of topical penicillin will only aid in spreading the disease throughout a herd.

As with all antibiotic therapy, in rabbits, it should be accompanied by free feeding of hay to help prevent diarrhea.

I would still treat the buck before I used him again. Why take a chance infecting other rabbits? I wonder if there is a herpes virus in rabbits?

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Yes, there is. I saw it when I was checking things out for General Brown, but did not read about it then. No time! And it seemed separate from the rabbit syphilis anyway. You could try the links I posted or just google it.

I saw this thread referred to and thought I should do a update. I culled the buck and doe in question after finding new stock to start over with. The kits.....I started out with 11 or 12, a large litter. I never medicated for anything. They slowly dwindled down to 3 kits left, and I disposed of them tonight. I am getting another new doe this weekend and I wanted to completely get rid of any chances of reinfection. I will disinfect the cage tommorrow.

I did however get a chance to talk to a small animal vet tonight. He is the fiance of my friends daughter and he said that it did sound like staff instead of syphliss. Whatever it was, I sure hope it stays gone.