Oh please help me! Potty training issues....

NamasteMama · #1 02/24/12, 03:08 PM

I have never in my life had such a hard time potty training a dog as this silly puppy that we have.

I do all the normal stuff. We take the little guy out, he pees, lots of praise and a treat, we come in, and he pees again on the floors! Yesterday he crapped on my staircase. We have resorted to having to keep him kennel most of the day, which is not how I want things to be, but I can not tollerate this nasty icky stuff. We are having to pull out all our carpets and put down tile after having this little guy for a month.
Help!

JasoninMN · #2 02/24/12, 03:17 PM

Movement makes a dog go to the bathroom. Make him walk, and don't bring him in till he has peed. Also once he is peeing and pooping outside bring him to the same spot and he will learn to go there.

Immaculate Sublimity · #3 02/24/12, 04:35 PM

what kind of dog is it?

farmmom · #4 02/24/12, 04:56 PM

Meal feeding will help with the poop issues. Put his food down, give a limited time to eat (10-15 min) pour all the remaining food back in the bag. He'll need to poop shortly afterward.

I'm also wondering the breed. Some are harder to train than others.

gapeach · #5 02/24/12, 05:19 PM

I always used the same word, potty, TT, PP, or whatever you wish to use as long as it is the same each time. Always take the pup to the same place and have a routine, after eating in the am, after eating in the afternoon, last thing at night. Even if he has pooped or peed in the house, still take him outside again a little later to the same place, use the same word and if he does go, heap praise on him. Good TT, good poop, give him a treat as soon as you can.

TedH71 · #6 02/24/12, 06:06 PM

Age of the pup will help. Also investigate if the pup has an UTI (urinary tract infection) and possibly allergies to the food. 8 weeks of age..every 15 mins then add 30 mins each month the pup is older. 3 months of age every 50 mins and so forth. Cheap food = frequent poop.

Haven · #7 02/24/12, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by NamasteMama

We have resorted to having to keep him kennel most of the day, which is not how I want things to be, but I can not tollerate this nasty icky stuff.

That is where he needs to be for now. If left out in the house leash him to your waist if needed. Transition to an ex pen with a tad more room when he is older. If he soils the pen, back to the crate and start over.

gapeach · #8 02/24/12, 08:12 PM

How old is he?

Maura · #9 02/25/12, 06:29 PM

What breed is he? How old is he? What do you feed him?

NamasteMama · #10 02/26/12, 01:00 AM

14 week old English mastiff, male, and we feed him http://www.primalpetfoods.com/

Maura · #11 02/27/12, 03:40 PM

He's still a little baby. Because he is a boy, his bladder is smaller than a girl's. Because he is a giant breed, it will take him longer to train. Their physical growth is long, and their mental growth is too. Next few times you take him out, count how long it takes him to pee. This will give you a better picture of how long he needs to be outside before emptying. Also keep track of how much poop he is producing. When he doesn't finish, keep him out longer and run around with him. If you can't keep him out, then bring him in and crate him for twenty minutes before bringing him out again.

It sounds like he has too much freedom in the house. Keep him contained the room you are in so you can keep an eye on him or he will soon learn secret spots to toilet in.

NamasteMama · #12 02/27/12, 05:52 PM

Yup he's learning secret spots.

Well today he spent most of the day tied to my waist and in the crate. so we have only had 2 accidents. I have had giant breeds before and I don't remember them being this hard to train...

TedH71 · #13 02/27/12, 10:10 PM

Mastiff breeds as a general rule aren't the smartest dogs around. They DO learn though.

NamasteMama · #14 02/28/12, 08:29 AM

Yeah well this not so smart boy knows sit, come, fetch, and roll over already,

Maura · #15 02/29/12, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by NamasteMama

YI have had giant breeds before and I don't remember them being this hard to train...

Perhaps you have selective memory. Perhaps you have gotten older and it's harder to bend down. Perhaps mother nature is jerking you around Bwa ha ha ha!

HilltopDaisy · #16 02/29/12, 05:58 PM

I'm having issues with a male Min Pin, he can be outside for 20 minutes, and he comes inside and poops. He's 8 months old, I've had him 2 weeks; I don't believe he was "house broke".

GrannyCarol · #17 02/29/12, 07:33 PM

HilltopDaisy - do you go out with him to make sure he poops and to praise him before he comes back in? And, if you go out with him and he doesn't poop, do you lock him back up into a crate until you walk him again in a short while (and yet again until he does poop)? It's a lot of work house training many toy dogs. It's easy for people to be lazy in their training because poops and pees are small and sometimes just missed by the owners. If you want good house training, it will be a lot of work, careful monitoring, lots of praise for what you do want and no chances to do what you don't want. Good luck!

kaitala · #18 02/29/12, 07:43 PM

Did the breeder paper train the pups? We got a dog at 8 weeks that had been paper trained for just that short period of time. He apparently took it to heart, and will still, from time to time, at 5 years old, pee or poo in the house. He doesn't bark to go out, either.

Sorry, that wasn't helpful, I know.

The tethering and crating seem like great ways to go. Also, when I have a pup, I like to have them out and start with every half hour. They soon learn to avail themselves of the opportunity when they go out, and you learn how long they can go without "going".

Best of luck with it.

TedH71 · #19 03/02/12, 06:47 PM

Mini pins are famous for being hard to housebreak. In the Dog Fancy magazine, one of the top breeders was awarded (tongue in cheek, naturally) an award for finally having a fully housebroken min pin. That points out to me how hard it is to housebreak them.

Maura · #20 03/03/12, 12:51 PM

One problem with tiny dogs is that they mature so quickly and can be "housebroken" to use carpeting or kitchen tile because they weren't taken out soon enough. Another problem is their sense of territory. They may no soil in the living room or kitchen, but feel that the spare bedroom is outside of the den.