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Old 09/11/10, 12:23 AM
 
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Dog Ear Hematoma,does it go away w/o surgery?

Ok, I searched this forum and googled this and there are 2 views :
1. get the surgery
2. let it go and it will reabsorb
The thread I found was a few years old so I was wondering how many of you guys have let it go and it reabsorbed and it was fine .
I don't care about the deformed ear,just if there is pain.
Binnie is a 8 yr old chow mix with chow like ears!
She had it on her other ear 3 or 4 years ago and I got the surgery and it was $170 ! At the time they told me the main reason to get it done
was the deformaty and although the money hurt I got it done because she was still pretty young.
Now I called to see if there is any new treatment and see what they say chances are it will go away and how much it would cost if I decide to do it.
Well the receptionist said chances are it won't go away by itself and that it is painful. I told her it is not now (you know you can tell) but she said it will get more painful.
Most info I got said it is not painful,one written by a DVM,PHD (he also said it will reabsorb)
She also said it will be around $300 now! Ouch!
The other thing is that this dog is not very (or at all) social with other people, I got her when she was a few month old and beaten or abused by her previous owner , and she is scared of everyone but me.
So this whole thing will be traumatising for her. I know last time it was.
She had to wear the collar forever then go back get the 'buttons' out too.
I made an appointment to look at her and give me an exact price and talk too vet about letting it go but I'm sure they will try to talk me into surgery so this is why I'm checking with you guys.
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Old 09/11/10, 05:28 AM
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We had an older dog who had a severe ear mite problem that resulted in a hematoma. We did nothing for it. We did get rid of the earmites. It did not go away but I do not think it was painful. It did get hard as a rock though.

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They go away. Our vet always just treated them conservatively with ice followed by heat and some DMSO/dex. Our older shih tzu had two of them, and turned out fine. We did have to massage the ear daily as it dried up, so his stayed pliable, plus the steroids helped the swelling go down.

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Old 09/11/10, 07:42 AM
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My grandfathers dog had one a few years back. Vet charged him $800 to drain it and sewed a sponge onto the ear leather. The hematoma went away but the ear looks all mangled and covered with scar tissue from the stitches and sponge.

Same dog developed one in the other ear a few mo back and he decided to let it go. Its still a tad puffy but looks 100% better than the 800$ "fixed-ear."

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Old 09/11/10, 06:32 PM
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They are very painful and there's no way I would let one of my dogs suffer like that. We've had surgery done on a cat and a dog for hematomas. The dog, our Black Lab Drake, developed his on a Friday and we called the vet. They said he would have to wait until Monday before they could do surgery on it and he suffered all weekend. He was absolutely miserable.

$300 seems awfully steep. Can you get price quotes from other vets in your area?

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Old 09/11/10, 08:09 PM
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There can be so much pressure in there...they are painful. The vet where I work, I don't know the exact price but I'm sure it's around $100. I have never heard of putting a sponge in there! That sounds very strange. When the scalpel hits it look out! The blood can blast out of there. owie.

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Old 09/11/10, 08:20 PM
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My dog had one, and I had it surgically treated. I'm glad I did it because it think it would have been thick and nasty looking/feeling if I had not. It did not cost me $800 either. I can't figure out why it would cost $800. That seems outrageous to me.

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Old 09/11/10, 11:08 PM
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In my case the rule of thumb with a hematoma is that if the dog is a show dog and needs to be tidy for the ring it will, no matter how much money we throw at the problem, heal in an ugly way. If the dog is already a champion or just a companion dog, it will heal fine even if I don't spend a dime on it:-(

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Thanks for all your answers.
It is still confusing though....it does seem to pull both ways...
Could it be painful in some not in others?
Or do some people think because they tilt their head and shake it sometimes ,it's painful?(My research shows,and it makes sense,that this is due to the different 'feeling' of the ear, not pain. It's like they want the 'strange' thing to drop off)
If it was painful she would yipe when I touch it and she does not. I can handle it no prob. with no protest at all! (and she would!)
I did ask a different vet about it today and he said it is definitely not painful and should reabsorb,but there will be scarring ,the 'cauliflower ear'.
And WOW ,$800!!!
Thanks so much...
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Old 09/12/10, 12:16 AM
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Drake's was painful, but it was also so swollen his ear stuck straight out from his head like he had a balloon attached to his head instead of an ear. He's a big Black Lab and has the floppy Lab ears. If we attempted to touch it he would whimper. It HURT.

I know people think we're nuts, but our rule of thumb is...if it were our child would we take it to the doctor?

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Drake's was painful, but it was also so swollen his ear stuck straight out from his head like he had a balloon attached to his head instead of an ear. He's a big Black Lab and has the floppy Lab ears. If we attempted to touch it he would whimper. It HURT.

I know people think we're nuts, but our rule of thumb is...if it were our child would we take it to the doctor?
Don't get me wrong, I would get the surgery if it was painful, but it is not.
Maybe it is the shape of the ear then?
Her's is really puffed up too,not a floppy ear ,but like I said definitely no pain.
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Old 09/12/10, 12:24 AM
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Could be the size of the ear too. However, when our cat had a hematoma he also was having pain with it.

Best thing you can do is keep an eye on it and see how it goes. Hopefully it will heal quickly, but don't be surprised if it happens again.

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definitely not painful and should reabsorb,but there will be scarring ,the 'cauliflower ear'.
And WOW ,$800!!!
Thanks so much...
Chris
Can't he give you some steroids to put on it like Dex? or a steroid shot or oral ones? It helps with the swelling.
It doesn't turn into cauliflower ear as long as you work with the ear daily to keep it pliable when it starts to go down. You can also use hotpacks, not now, but when it starts to go down. While it is freshly swelling you use cold packs.
It's not painful if she doesn't think it is. If it seems painful then the vet would give some pain killers.
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Can't he give you some steroids to put on it like Dex? or a steroid shot or oral ones? It helps with the swelling.
It doesn't turn into cauliflower ear as long as you work with the ear daily to keep it pliable when it starts to go down. You can also use hotpacks, not now, but when it starts to go down. While it is freshly swelling you use cold packs.
It's not painful if she doesn't think it is. If it seems painful then the vet would give some pain killers.
I will still go have it looked at on Monday. I'll ask about that.
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Some vets poke a hole in the ear (closer to the tip on a flop ear, or base if prick ear) then insert a teat canulla. Then the cap of the canulla is taken of several times a day and drained. I find leaving the cap off is messy but it heals quicker and better looking. I have done this myself at home but I have seen it done many times. The blade must be a sterile one and the hole must be the right size to keep the canulla in. They are not given any pain relief for the poke but they dont seem to feel it, and it is more of a relief. I am not sure why other vets do not use the dairy cow teat canulla method but it works well and very inexpensive.

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I would like to post a thank you to the posters here. I kept looking at the thread and finally read it. I got curious and googled the term "hematoma" only to realize my oldest TC had exactly that. I procrastinated as usual, but today called the vet and talked to the tech. His comment was bring him right out and that he would need surgery to keep it from turning into the cauliflower ear. WE go to a vet that is almost an hour out from us due to the fact that they will work with us financially. Well the surgery is supposed to cost only $75.00. That is not too bad considering what I already owe them for last kitty. That to me is not too bad, considering all my factors. They had to keep him overnight and will do the surgery tomorrow in the AM. Then we will pick him up in the afternoon. It is toooooo quiet here without him tonight.

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Old 09/21/10, 08:32 AM
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Katskitten....I'm so glad you were able to gleen info from this post. I love this forum! I'm sure your dog will be fine

UFO Chris...update?

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Katskitten....I'm so glad you were able to gleen info from this post. I love this forum! I'm sure your dog will be fine

UFO Chris...update?
Actually it is one of my male cats , but the post lead me to do the checking and I do agree. This forum is one of the very few that I frequent and enjoy so very much.
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Old 09/21/10, 09:07 AM
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I have never heard of putting a sponge in there! That sounds very strange. When the scalpel hits it look out! The blood can blast out of there. owie.
Me either. I suppose it was supposed to pad the ear leather and prevent a new hematoma from forming if the dog kept shaking its head. But seriously, the poor thing walked around with a kitchen sponge hanging on one ear for over a month, the ear turned to cauliflower and the skin healed around the stitches holding the sponge on, which added scar tissue all over the ear too.

It was actually a large flat sponge stitched onto the length of the ear leather...
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Old 09/21/10, 09:47 AM
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Actually it is one of my male cats , but the post lead me to do the checking and I do agree. This forum is one of the very few that I frequent and enjoy so very much.
I was trying to figure out the TC and thought it was a dog breed that I couldn't get a grasp on lol!!!
I had the surgery done on one of my cats. It all went real good. His ear does have some puckers in it from the stitches. I'm glad because now I can tell him a part from his twin sister
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