Neutered male dog question? (Maybe offensive to some)

[firegirl969]

We went to visit my sister today and took my daschound (sp). I did not realize she was coming into heat. My sister has a neutered male dog. Well, DH went into visit while I was teaching a first aid class at the nursing home near her house. He and BIL went out to smoke a cigarette and when they came back into the house my dog and sister's dog were breeding, like hooked up, all the way breeding. I thought that when a dog was fixed that there was no longer the urge to breed. Was I mistaken? Is it just that he is shooting blanks? He has no testicles or a sack. We did check that. Thanks in advance for the help, firegirl

[deb]

Originally Posted by firegirl969

I thought that when a dog was fixed that there was no longer the urge to breed. Was I mistaken? Is it just that he is shooting blanks? He has no testicles or a sack. We did check that. Thanks in advance for the help, firegirl

Male dogs that were neutered as adults will often act like unneutered (intact) dogs. As male dogs mature their bodies are flooded with hormones that trigger physical and behavioral changes. Neutering an adult dog will keep them from breeding and may reduce the behavioral changes, but it really depends on the dog and their circumstances.

I should note that neutering an adult dog will reduce their chance of getting cancer, but neutering a dog before maturity reduces the chance even more.

deb
in wi

[ozark_jewels]

My nuetered Anatolian/Catahoula ties with any in heat female around. He never produces pups, but he sure tries.
He was nuetered at three months.

[cathleenc]

we had many full on breeding efforts, including the classic 'getting stuck' part, between our fixed male and unfixed female. the female is now fixed.

[EDDIE BUCK]

A friend of mine had a male dachshund that he had neutered to stop him from roaming, which had gotten to be a problem.It worked,he was a home body from then on.It would seem like if he lost the urge to roam,he also lost the urge to "love".I never saw him act interested in other dogs after that,but I can't say for sure.But,as DEB mentioned,I've seen other neutered males act the same as they did before they lost their "whatcha macallets" lol eb

[Minelson]

There must be something in the air...wasn't there just another post on this same subject?

[ShyAnne]

Hahah, must be in the air, Minelson, I just posted for the same reason!

Its a male dog thing.

[Ravenlost]

We have all our dogs fixed (male and female) at six months of age, unless we get them older (at which time they get fixed). Almost all our neutered males still have urges around a female in heat. Like ShyAnne said, it's a male dog thing.

[firegirl969]

Thanks for the posts. We want to breed her to a neighbor's male daschound (sp) before having her fixed. Now will be our chance. I love this forum. If I am not sure about something, I just come here to ask and you guy's know the answer. Blessings to all for a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year, firegirl

[longshadowfarms]

Our Basset was in heat when she came from the pound and our neutered Lab tied with her a couple of times (the first time we didn't realize it would happen, the second time one of the kids let him out when she was out). It isn't a problem of pregnancy, but it could hurt her if they try to break the tie before they are ready or if the male is significantly larger than the female. Best to keep them apart as long as she is in heat for her safety. If you do have pups, I hope you'll share some pictures!

[Pops2]

Originally Posted by deb

Male dogs that were neutered as adults will often act like unneutered (intact) dogs. As male dogs mature their bodies are flooded with hormones that trigger physical and behavioral changes. Neutering an adult dog will keep them from breeding and may reduce the behavioral changes, but it really depends on the dog and their circumstances.

I should note that neutering an adult dog will reduce their chance of getting cancer, but neutering a dog before maturity reduces the chance even more.

deb
in wi

Actually there is evidence that neutering only eliminates the risk of testicular cancer, which is a minimal risk cancer anyway, but significantly increases the incidence of other cancers. so unless they are serious escape artists or have undescended testicles i won't neuter in the future.

http://www.mmilani.com/commentary-200509.html

http://www.naiaonline.org/pdfs/LongT...uterInDogs.pdf

[GoldenMom]

Originally Posted by Pops2

Actually there is evidence that neutering only eliminates the risk of testicular cancer, which is a minimal risk cancer anyway, but significantly increases the incidence of other cancers. so unless they are serious escape artists or have undescended testicles i won't neuter in the future.

http://www.mmilani.com/commentary-200509.html

http://www.naiaonline.org/pdfs/LongT...uterInDogs.pdf

Sure doubling or tripling the rate of a certain cancer in neutered dogs sounds significant, but when you are doubling or tripling a <1% chance of developing the cancer in the first place, it really isn't significant in the greatest portion of canine population. Funny how a 100% decrease in a certain cancer isn't significant...

Sorry just feeling a bit rebellious tonight.

[Pops2]

Originally Posted by GoldenMom

Sure doubling or tripling the rate of a certain cancer in neutered dogs sounds significant, but when you are doubling or tripling a <1% chance of developing the cancer in the first place, it really isn't significant in the greatest portion of canine population. Funny how a 100% decrease in a certain cancer isn't significant...

Sorry just feeling a bit rebellious tonight.

yeah, a 100% decrease in a cancer that is less than 1% fatal to normal intact dogs is NOT significant. so lets see i eliminate a cancer that is less than 1% chance of killing my dog & is successfully treated in over 90% of treated cases, but in the mean time i am now taking my dog from a 1 in 10 chance of developing a potentially fatal bone cancer to just over a 1 in 4 chance of developing a potentialy fatal or dibilitating cancer. thats just the big one. on the little ones a take his less than 1% chance of prostate cancer and up it to 3-4% (going from 1 dog out of 100 to 3-4 dogs out of 100 isn't a big deal, UNLESS your dog is 1 of the 3-4).
it's really rather like cutting off a girl's breasts at 15 so she doesn't get cancer at 30 or 40, except that the girl actually has a greater risk of death than the dog does.

[SageLady]

My male chihuahua was neutered when he was 6 months old. He regularly "humps" his special toys and our other male dog, a pug (who gets really irritated with him). I'm sure if he had his chance with a female chihuahua all his dreams would be realized. LOL

[Skykomish]

Just so you are aware, do your best not to let that kind of thing happen again. I had to emergency spay a very nice bitch because she got pyometreitis (uterine infection) from being bred by a neutered male.

[Pyrenees]

Originally Posted by SageLady

My male chihuahua was neutered when he was 6 months old. He regularly "humps" his special toys and our other male dog, a pug (who gets really irritated with him). I'm sure if he had his chance with a female chihuahua all his dreams would be realized. LOL

One of my more memorable professional moments was tending to a neutered chihuahua that was "servicing" a wicker basket...and got...ahem...stuck.

[ozark_jewels]

Originally Posted by Pyrenees

One of my more memorable professional moments was tending to a neutered chihuahua that was "servicing" a wicker basket...and got...ahem...stuck.

That is just great.LOL!!!

[Wolf Flower]

Originally Posted by Pops2

it's really rather like cutting off a girl's breasts at 15 so she doesn't get cancer at 30 or 40, except that the girl actually has a greater risk of death than the dog does.

Having developed at an early age and having been mercilessly teased about it to the point of extreme self-consciousness, I would have LOVED to have had my breasts removed at age 15, especially if there was some protection against cancer. It runs in my family. I would have loved to have gotten spayed at the same time, for that matter. I'd take the risk as I'm not using any of those parts anyway and would probably be better off without them.

Off topic and all, but I'm just sayin...

[longshadowfarms]

Originally Posted by Pyrenees

One of my more memorable professional moments was tending to a neutered chihuahua that was "servicing" a wicker basket...and got...ahem...stuck.

That image is now stuck in my brain! LOL!

[tailwagging]

Originally Posted by Skykomish

Just so you are aware, do your best not to let that kind of thing happen again. I had to emergency spay a very nice bitch because she got pyometreitis (uterine infection) from being bred by a neutered male.

I agree.