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Old 01/04/06, 10:56 AM
 
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Drugs to bring a dog into heat

Has anyone ever used them ? If so what ? What was the out come and size of the litter?


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Old 01/06/06, 10:36 AM
 
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Might try viagra! Guess what would work on person,will work on dog!! Just think what would get a person stired!

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Old 01/06/06, 10:53 AM
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...but seriously. I've never heard of such a drug and I was in the "doggy" industry a long time. Maybe someone can correct me if I'm mistaken.
Alot of breeders I knew, if they wanted a bitch to come into heat early, they would find another bitch in heat (say at a friends house) and bring their female over to stay a few days, sometimes it worked.
What's the rush and how old is she? If this is her first heat it's best to wait, for her body to finish growing.
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Old 01/06/06, 12:04 PM
 
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I would prefer summer pups. No this isn't her first heat she is over 2. I had heard someone talking about something and cannot remember what it was. I didn't not believe them because you can bring other animals in with certain drugs.

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Old 03/25/06, 03:27 PM
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If what you're talking about is artificially bringing your bitch into heat by injecting her with hormones - this is really not a good idea if its done just for convenience sake. We used lutalysing drugs to bring whole groups of cattle into heat at the same time so that there was a predicatable and anticipated arrival of their estrus cycle. This helped with artificial inseminating (since heat detection was done by the clock after injection - not by a bull). Back in the old days, we brought groups of heifers and gilts into heat by "taking the girls for a ride". Whether it was the stress, the change in routine, or being together as a group - somehow - it synchronized their estrus cycles and they all cycled together.

Super-ovulating wears out and ages a reproductive system. Its done in cattle and swine because thats their purpose - to reproduce without regard to their longevity or the longevity of their reproductive life. And it allows us to bring into heat a prepotent cow, inseminate the eggs, and then flush them, retrieve them and implant them in surrogate cows for maximum reproductive efficiency.

Doing this with dogs is still in the experimental stages -but I understand its being done -especially in Europe.

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Old 03/25/06, 05:42 PM
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There used to be a drug that could be given to bitches to stop them from coming into season- not remembering the name off the top of my head. After it was stopped the bitch would cycle and could be bred. There was conflicting data on if it worked or not. It did prevent the season in all cases, but some bitches either failed to cycle properly or could not carry a litter to term afterwards. They took it off the market for a while, but it is back under a new name. You could ask a repro vet about it- Dr Hutchison in OH is excellent. He advocates it's use as it is less assualt on the reproduction system to have fewer heats, but myself I would not risk it.

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Check drops... and they are VERY expensive!


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There used to be a drug that could be given to bitches to stop them from coming into season- not remembering the name off the top of my head.
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Old 03/25/06, 08:15 PM
 
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Cheque drops and Ovaban both prevented estrus while being administered, and resulted in the bitch coming into heat within 1-2 months of the drug being stopped. Both were associated with increased risk of pyometra and cystic ovaries.

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Dr. Mary, can you tell me about this? We have a 8 year old bitch who should whelp tomorrow. After that friends say we should spay her. What do you think? She is a Australian Shepherd (black tri) and very healthy; not on any drugs. Thanks.

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Old 03/26/06, 10:41 AM
 
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Thank you for the responses. I would not use something that wasn't safe and from what I am hearing I will not for awhile anyways.

Hank-Narita I would see how this litter goes. If she has no problems , keeps good weight then you may be OK. What I used to do is count on a c sec with the older girls. If that was the case I would have them spayed at the same time. If not I considered myself and her lucky , then let her recoop from pups and then do the spay. I would say maybe 1 more litter and that would be it .

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Thanks Patty. We might just do that. SHe is very healthy. She lives on our farm and gets plenty of exercise. She is out with my husband now. Guess puppies are a few days away after all.

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