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08/24/05, 07:18 AM
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Geep, anyone?
I have a new baby in my barnyard. She wasn't supposed to be here. Mom wasn't bagged up, or anything...though I was congratulating myself on her nice condition the other day....
But the baby has to be a geep. Same markings as my billy goat from the knees down....and my ram was penned from Feb. on!
If anything weird can happen, it will happen here 
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08/24/05, 07:46 AM
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It is possible for them to cross breed, but I think they abort or at the least the offspring do not live. I have gotten some funny colors and such from known breedings. Post a pic if you can .
Patty
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08/24/05, 07:51 AM
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The ears are much longer, there is hair, not wool, from the knees down, and the MAA! is much much louder than a lamb. 6 out of 6 lams, including twins from this ewe, were all solid white and predictable......
Very very funny.......
I'll try to get pics soon.
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08/24/05, 10:41 AM
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I have one that I would almost swear was a cross. She is suppossed to be a pure bred Barbado. I saw her mother, father, and I had her half brother and sister. All were registerable except this one. She is very odd looking. She has very strange wool like stuff on her, very short ears about an inch long, and to top it off she is sterile. She is two years old and never had a baby or come in heat. The lady I bought her from had nothing but pure bred barbados and some goats in her pen. There were no other sheep any where near. Her coat is nothing like I've ever seen personally. I have Shetlands and Katahdins as well and they don't have anything like this.
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08/24/05, 12:35 PM
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Oh my gosh! I didn't even know this is possible!!! Good to know, as we are planning to bring a Boer billy goat to our place to breed our goats soon. Our 5 goats run with our 24 ewes, and that's ALL we need! Maybe we'd better separate the goats and the sheep, at least while the billy is around!!!!! I am very anxious to see pictures of this new critter!!! (Does anyone know if it works the other way around? Our ram...who is currently penned up for another month...breeding the goats? That's kind of sick!)
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08/24/05, 12:48 PM
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I believe it can happen both ways.
I wasn't worried, I was told this was extremely unlikely.....but here she is! And marked just like my billy wherever she has hair and not wool.
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08/24/05, 03:19 PM
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It simply depends on the breeds involved. Some are close enough genetically that it is not a problem and you get a sterile Geep (I've also seen it spelled Gleep), others are supposed to be far enough apart they cant get pregnant at all. Then in the middle are the stories about some being close enough to get pregnant, but far enough apart the mother dies of an immune reaction during second trimester, or maybe just aborts.
From what Ive read the Morada Nova sheep have been run with goats for so many generations that Geeps are common for them
If you ram has been isolated since February, he still might be the father, thats still a maximum of only 6 months separation, Gestation for my sheep is usually 6 months plus or minus a few weeks
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08/25/05, 12:49 PM
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goat onto sheep = geep?
sheep onto goat = shoat? lol sounds funny
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08/26/05, 12:02 AM
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My ewes lamb at around 145 days. Of course some go a few days early and some go a few days late. If that holds true for your girls, that would mean she became PG around the 1st of April. A late April Fools joke, maybe! Did you have any ram lambs that were running with the girls that may have had a bit of fun during that time? If not, and you do have a geep, well... that's pretty cool and I hope she and momma do well.
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08/26/05, 07:31 AM
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Nope. All my ram lambs were wethered fairly young, just 'cause of this.
I'm switching to a breed that only WANTS to lamb in the spring....this is driving me crazy....
And at a few days old, her ears are longer and getting kinda droopy-looking....she looks odder and odder......
But she's very friendly! Much more outgoing than the usual lamb.
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08/26/05, 09:46 PM
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Well I've heard of it and what George posted pretty much fits what I know. I hope it does well!
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08/27/05, 09:19 AM
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In england a while back someone had a GEEP born and i think its still alive.. but i never thought it would happen twice.. i thought it was one of those rare things that happens once in a lifetime.. Thats pretty cool i would treasure that li one but be careful about meds and it prollly will have both species of diseases and sicknessses( which i ams ure are similar just different lol) Oh and congrats on the girl geep or shoat
lyn
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08/27/05, 11:33 AM
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Or it could be healthier than either species. (ie hybrid vigor) I know I am dying to see a picture!
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10/17/05, 01:53 AM
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Oh dear - this is what I am afraid of!!
We naively did not even consider that breeding would occur with our new ram and goats!! We have been desperately keeping him apart from the female lambs/ewes, and permitting him to happily exist alongside our two goats. Happily, no wonder!!!!
What should we do now? We are certain that he has been "active" with them - over the past month. Should we intervene? Certainly keep them apart? Can we abort them as a precautionary method, even if we're not sure what is going on in there? Should we just let nature play itself out?
I don't want to put our goats at risk, because of our stupid error!!!
jodi
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10/23/05, 01:57 AM
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At one point I had two nubian does in with my sheep and my ram would NOT leave those goats alone, he prefered goat to ewe any day. I did see him breed one of the does at one point but I don't know if she kidded (lidded, kambed?) as we sold her soon after. I have no use for a ram that has no use for ewes!! Once the temptation was removed he decided that he did indeed like woolies just fine.
A gleep (geep?) would be something to see, though!!
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10/23/05, 07:23 AM
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Geep.
Are actually comonly bred in Silcy alot really,atleast near the base I served at did. and they live just as long as a sheep or goat. Pretty hardy fellas,used as portable lawnmowers there plus milk and fiber.
but then again in that area it was very norm to use a Silician farmer being chased by a large line of fire in the Fall as the were burning thier fields. {scared da heck outa me when I first had seen it.}
Eggs
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10/23/05, 08:01 AM
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used as portable lawnmowers there plus milk and fiber.
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How can they be milked if they're sterile?
Mamalisa...what ever happened to your geep?
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10/23/05, 11:05 AM
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She must be mistaking it with some breed of sheep or goat, not the cross. This cross is sterile and can't bred so therefore no milk or babies.
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