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Old 08/01/10, 02:46 PM
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How to recover a lamb who had worms?

We have a triplet (about 10 weeks old) who didn't grow well (weighs maybe 6 lbs and her siblings are more like 25 now), and really went downhill last week. The other sheep have been fine, but when we wormed the flock last week she got even worse. She had white eyelids, and now isn't even standing well. She eats and drinks well from a pan. We put an electrolyte mix in her water and are feeding lamb grower and hay. Since yesterday the worm load has started to exit her digestive system, and her poo is just dreadfully wormy. She is in a separate pen away from the pasture now. I know the philosophy of selling the weakling, but she is not well enough to even give away. How can we rehab her and get her in enough working order to sell? We drench her daily.

What do we do with the wormy poo? We've been spraying it with the organic insecticide that I use in the garden, then disposing it far away from the barn. Will that do?

We've also washed her bum off, but I feel like we should somehow disinfect her rear to keep the critters at bay. We can't be there to move her and scoop immediately every time she poos. Any ideas?

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Old 08/01/10, 03:10 PM
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If you're seeing worms, they are tapeworms.
You need Safeguard or a similar wormer to kill them
Tapeworms seldom cause anemia though.

I'd stop with the worm medicine for now, and give her Vitamin B and Iron Dextrose.

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Old 08/01/10, 04:42 PM
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If you are drenching her everyday for a week, then I would say your dewormer may be ineffective or you could be poisoning her since she is going downhill. I would talk to a vet and possibly switch dewormers.

Safeguard and Valbazen are effective for tape worms, but I remember someone saying that Valbazen can kill pre-ruminating lambs. So at 10 weeks she should be ruminating, but I would probably avoid using Valbazen on any young lambs.

I have been dealing with the same thing in a lamb, smallest of triplets, that I just happened to check one day about 1 1/2 weeks ago. Totally white eyelids. I treated her once with Cydectin and then waited a week to treat again. Within two days, her eyelids showed improvement. I will check her again at three weeks and probably treat again.

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We have a triplet (about 10 weeks old) who didn't grow well (weighs maybe 6 lbs and her siblings are more like 25 now), and really went downhill last week. The other sheep have been fine, but when we wormed the flock last week she got even worse. She had white eyelids, and now isn't even standing well. She eats and drinks well from a pan. We put an electrolyte mix in her water and are feeding lamb grower and hay. Since yesterday the worm load has started to exit her digestive system, and her poo is just dreadfully wormy. She is in a separate pen away from the pasture now. I know the philosophy of selling the weakling, but she is not well enough to even give away. How can we rehab her and get her in enough working order to sell? We drench her daily.

What do we do with the wormy poo? We've been spraying it with the organic insecticide that I use in the garden, then disposing it far away from the barn. Will that do?

We've also washed her bum off, but I feel like we should somehow disinfect her rear to keep the critters at bay. We can't be there to move her and scoop immediately every time she poos. Any ideas?

Thanks a bunch!
It's very difficult to rehab an unthrifty lamb, especially if it's parasite related. Just offer plenty of good feed and clean water, and follow up the worming with another dose when applicable. Be sure the lamb gets quality grain/hay and salt. I certainly wouldn't keep this lamb if she does recover, as she is obviously highly susceptible to parasites.
You're sure she has worms, right? I mean, it's not flystrike? As stated previously, tape worms don't usually cause that degree of anemia, although it could be a multi-parasite infestation, ie; tapeworms, and barber pole worms together.
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Ahhhh... unless it is a daily dewormer stop drenching her like that, I'd feel like cr*p too if I had poison shoved down my throat every day. Vit B will help her rebuild blood cells, as well as iron, is the grain your feeding coated in molasses? If not either mix it in or switch to a sweet feed, extra calories and iron from the molasses. You're also going to need to give her some pro-biotics, that much wormer has undoubtedly decimated her gut flora and you need to reintroduce them to her rumen. Give her more hay than grain so the gut flora can thrive.

I would move her down the line once she's healthy enough for the auction. Trips are notorious for having digestive problems(was she the runt at birth?) and its probably not just worms that caused her to be that unthrifty.

As far as the pen goes I wouldn't bother spraying it with anything parasite eggs are encrusted like rocks just scoop bag and toss out with your trash. Make sure water doesn't run off from the pen, that will carry the shed eggs with it. When you move her out of the pen spray it with a bleach solution and then leave it to bake in the sun for a couple months.

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Am I missing something? Where did the OP state that the lamb was being repeatedly drenched? I saw where she was wormed...period.

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............... know the philosophy of selling the weakling, but she is not well enough to even give away. How can we rehab her and get her in enough working order to sell? We drench her daily. ......
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Old 08/01/10, 08:48 PM
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Ahhh...yes. How is it I can read a post 10 times and still not see what everyone else seems to see?

Thanks Callieslamb.

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Will she still take milk? Nothing better to put weight on than whole milk if she can handle it.

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(thread hijacked by the wife...)
The daily drench is Nutri-drench, an iron-rich vitamin/mineral supplement, NOT a wormer! Do people actually worm DAILY? That's insane! We definitely aren't poisoning her! I mean drenching as in giving her nutri-drench with a drencher, not worming!
Well, I suppose it doesn't matter much anymore anyway, she expired about 12 hours after I posted the question. It was worms, for sure, not flystrike. I was hovering over her closely to make sure the flies didn't move in, too, though.
She would not take milk - we tried. She would drink the electrolyte water, though. She ate well, both hay and lamb grower.
I had tried the vet numerous times, but it turns out that he was out of town, and the covering vet wasn't nearby. She died right around the time our regular vet returned.
She wasn't the runt of the triplets. I guess she was just really susceptible. I should have saved some of the poo to have it checked out and figure exactly what the wiggly critters were, but I just didn't get to it. It's trouble enough trying to explain to a three year old why her friend died. I just wasn't thinking about poo collecting.
I think maybe next time we need to worm, we might try Levasole. We are not scheduled wormers, and our other lambs have lovely pink eyelids, but if this does happen again I think we need a different line of defense.
Thanks for the tips on cleaning up the wiggling poo. She was far from the barn so I don't think it will continue to be a problem.

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Sorry to hear you lost her, but it's a part of raising any animals.
It sounds like she just never got off to a good start
I hate having triplets

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Seems like I read somewhere, years ago, not to give electrolytes to aneimic sheep because it thins the blood even more. I'll have to research that again to see if I'm just getting old and senile.

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Hm, that bit about the electrolytes would be interesting to know!

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