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01/19/10, 06:32 PM
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My first 'Easter Bunny" litter
This is the first year I've tried for a few pet for "Easter Bunnies" ... this is a litter of Mini Rex/Holland Lop crossbreds one week old. Not sure of all of the colors but mostly broken reds.
Not sure of the color on this one. I thought broken black at first but there's a brown cast to it so I'm thinking it could turn out to be broken tort. There are torts in the pedigree of the Holland. Looks like some of the castors I've had in the standard Rex, but no castor in the pedigree.
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01/19/10, 06:52 PM
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Very pretty litter! Lots of colour and pattern, which has to be a plus for the pet market.
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01/21/10, 07:16 AM
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Is there any chestnut agouti in the litter? That's what it sort of looks like from the head coloring. Very pretty broken patterns. I love the ones with all the little spots!
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01/21/10, 08:09 AM
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I'm not actually sure what "chestnut" is ... the Rex and Mini Rex don't have a color that is called chestnut. There is a brownish shade called castor and I've seen some that are quite dark. It seems like the castors I've had were lighter, however, and the adult fur came in darker, not the other way around.
The Holland Lops may, but I've only had three and none that anyone called chestnut. The broken black Holland buck that is the sire has tortoise in his pedigree. One of the Hollands the breeder called a "tortoise" and she said this was a "tort" also (picture below) but I'm not sure what color chestnut would be.
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01/21/10, 10:09 AM
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Here's a picture of a chestnut agouti Holland Lop
http://i39.tinypic.com/x451yx.jpg
Not sure if that's what it is, just sort of looks like it from the orangey color around the ears. Sometimes they'll surprise you on colors. When we raised Mini Red, the castors were always more of a reddish brown down the middle of their black and more blackish down toward the legs. Hard to say, but cute none the less. 
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01/21/10, 12:15 PM
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Not to confuse you any further, but I'd call that lop pic you posted a broken BLUE tort. Chestnut Agouti (sometimes refered to only as Agouti, but isn't politically correct) is your "wild rabbit" color. I THINK (and may be wrong) that the rex fur either doesn't have this or it appears in another way...
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01/21/10, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Lyndseyrk
Not to confuse you any further, but I'd call that lop pic you posted a broken BLUE tort. Chestnut Agouti (sometimes refered to only as Agouti, but isn't politically correct) is your "wild rabbit" color. I THINK (and may be wrong) that the rex fur either doesn't have this or it appears in another way...
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I don't think the rex have chestnut agouti, but they do have chinchilla which is a ringed pattern.............I can't remember, is castor a ringed color? It's been years since I've raised Mini Rex.
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01/21/10, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Lyndseyrk
Not to confuse you any further, but I'd call that lop pic you posted a broken BLUE tort.
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Yes, the Holland Lop breeder did add "colors" to the tort ... blue tort, orange and I've seen other colors listed in pedigrees. I'm not very good with colors yet, especially with breeds other than Rex. And I've noticed this particular rabbit getting a little more "blue" in the coat spots rather than looking so tan.
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01/21/10, 03:14 PM
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All those colors......almost like Christmas isn't it?
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01/21/10, 03:42 PM
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Castor and Chestnut refer to the same colour. In Rex its called castor and in Hollands its chestnut. Both names refer to the basic Agouti pattern. Agouti has ring colour, that is if you blow into the fur you will see different "rings " of colour on each hair. The colour Red is non-extension agouti. That means the rufus has taken over the entire hair shaft. Tort is an example where the black tips have been placed at the extremeties of the rabbit instead of each hair. There are variations of the basic agouti for colour (black/chocolate) and density of colour (black/blue;chocolate/lilac) Chinchilla is also agouti with the yellow/tan pigments supressed. The kit in question is a broken black chestnut. It did not receive the small ee to be red but perhaps is Ee and carries non-extension.Castor/chestnut is the most dominant pattern. It can "hide" tort, otter,self,rew and the various pointeds.
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01/21/10, 03:50 PM
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Actually that broken red kit at the top of the photo looks like a Tri-colour. Its a little hard to tell but the other lightly marked brokens may be as well! That would mean someone is also carrying the japanese gene (harlequin in solid, Tri in broken) Just noticed after I first posted so thought I'd mention it.:banana02:
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01/21/10, 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Devoville
Actually that broken red kit at the top of the photo looks like a Tri-colour. Its a little hard to tell but the other lightly marked brokens may be as well! That would mean someone is also carrying the japanese gene (harlequin in solid, Tri in broken) Just noticed after I first posted so thought I'd mention it.:banana02:
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You're right, there are tricolors. The doe is a blue/fawn/white, the sire broken black. I'm sure that at least some of the lightly marked brokens may be blue/fawn tris and the broken red doe have some black.
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01/21/10, 05:43 PM
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I wish I had that many colors to play with!
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01/21/10, 05:57 PM
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I wish I had that many colors to play with!
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Me too. That's awesome.
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01/21/10, 11:38 PM
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Thats a beautiful litter i just got me a blk n white rex today she is my first rex i still cant believe how soft she is i was also planning on breeding her with my holland lop i dont know which one to choose though i got a orange holland and the broken one in the pic just curious which one some of you would pic!
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01/22/10, 06:32 AM
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I wish I had that many colors to play with!
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I love color ... and color breeding. Fortunately (or not) I can't get to shows so I don't have to worry much about "showable colors" ... my pet bunnies can be any "attractive" color and some of the standard Rex I breed for colors I want to use with some of my craft stuff, if I ever get around to it.
The tricolors seem to give me a wide range of possibilities and I managed to get a broken sable point buck as well though not as many colors in the Mini Rex as yet. Now that I've decided the does to cross to the Holland Lops need to be bigger, I will be breeding a couple of the sable point does, so should get that color in the "Plush Lops" eventually too.
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01/22/10, 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by LATTE
i was also planning on breeding her with my holland lop i dont know which one to choose though i got a orange holland and the broken one in the pic just curious which one some of you would pic!
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Solid to broken should give you some solids, some brokens and no "charlies", which are brokens with two "broken color" genes and often mostly white.
I do breed broken to broken myself at times and I'm keeping a "charlie" buck specifically to breed to solid color does because a charlie will produce 100% spotted offspring from a solid color. It all depends on what you prefer.
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01/22/10, 09:08 AM
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They sure are adorable no matter what color they call them. Some kids are going to be really happy to get them for Easter!
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01/22/10, 10:45 AM
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"Smudge" is a personal favorite of mine
I don't normally like the REW as much as I do the "colored" rabbits, but I love this little guy. Looks like he got his nose somewhere it didn't belong!
His sire was a really friendly, people oriented Mini Rex (harlequin) and in fact also sired Myst, the mother of the "color litter". The temperament seems to be getting passed on as well ... they are friendlier as babies and the ones I've kept are a lot quicker to actually want/like extra attention.
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01/22/10, 12:13 PM
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well i guess i wont be breeding my rex with my holland male right now i got them late last night and diddnt check their sex till this morning and he is a boy lol!! so i will try him with my new white angora i got and maybe later to one of my female hollands they were due to have their litters one yesterday and one today but no sign of nesting or hair pulling seems like it might be forever before i get my first litter but im not giving up lol!!
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