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12/31/08, 12:06 PM
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looking for Cali and NZ Stock
I am in the market for stock; I am willing to pay top dollar for the very best Californians and NZ. I will be ready no later than the first of May. I am looking for 4 unrelated Californian does and 2 unrelated NZ bucks. Please send Pictures of your rabbits, rabbitry and records pertaining to the rabbits for sale, including Litter size, death rate and feed conversion rate.
I prefer a breeder with in 300 miles of Winlock, WA 98596 as I will be picking up the rabbits in person after inspecting your facilities, records and rabbits.
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12/31/08, 12:51 PM
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I do not know how to word this but here I try.
What business would open up their facilities records and products all for "inspection"? What does inspection mean?
Close by, within an hour's drive, there is a farmer with a commercial rabbit production. He does not allow anyone into the rabbitry for disease control and also if I'm correct does not sell stock to the public.
And just out of curiousity what is top dollar?
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12/31/08, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Skip
And just out of curiousity what is top dollar?
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The American Federation of New Zealand Rabbit Breeders held an auction at Convention this year. Their newsletter indicates the cheapest rabbit went for $120 and the most expensive ones for $300 EACH. I'd consider that pretty much top dollar 
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12/31/08, 01:40 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2008
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Originally Posted by Skip
I do not know how to word this but here I try.
What business would open up their facilities records and products all for "inspection"? What does inspection mean?
Close by, within an hour's drive, there is a farmer with a commercial rabbit production. He does not allow anyone into the rabbitry for disease control and also if I'm correct does not sell stock to the public.
And just out of curiousity what is top dollar?
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A person does not have to trample a rabbitry to take a look at the conditions. A peek in the facility is usually all it takes. A close look at the records kept on the rabbits is mandatory.
The only people I find that do not want you to see where the rabbits are kept are those that have something to hide and I am not interested in that. I am looking for good starter stock produced by proffesionals.
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12/31/08, 01:42 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2008
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Originally Posted by moonkitten
The American Federation of New Zealand Rabbit Breeders held an auction at Convention this year. Their newsletter indicates the cheapest rabbit went for $120 and the most expensive ones for $300 EACH. I'd consider that pretty much top dollar |
$300 for a good producing doe with good and proven lines is not out of line at all especially if the feed conversion ratio is way up as well.
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12/31/08, 01:47 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Prince Edward County, Ontario, Canada
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Originally Posted by klickitat
The only people I find that do not want you to see where the rabbits are kept are those that have something to hide and I am not interested in that. I am looking for good starter stock produced by proffesionals.
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You are not omniscient and cannot possibly look into the minds and hearts of other people to make a blanket judgment of this sort. Many, many people - professionals and hobbyists alike - disagree with you completely on this issue. Buy where you like, but please show a little respect for other people. Implying that those of us who favour biosecurity and closed facilities are unethical is not nice.
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12/31/08, 02:04 PM
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biosecurity
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Originally Posted by MaggieJ
You are not omniscient and cannot possibly look into the minds and hearts of other people to make a blanket judgment of this sort. Many, many people - professionals and hobbyists alike - disagree with you completely on this issue. Buy where you like, but please show a little respect for other people. Implying that those of us who favour biosecurity and closed facilities are unethical is not nice.
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Thank you Maggiej I agree with you , we have a very strict quarintine policy . We haven't let anyone in our rabbitry sense day one.The only time we let a buyer in to see our setup the rabbits went nuts. They don't like strangers.  
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Champagne D Argent, White New Zealand & Californian Cross Rabbits
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12/31/08, 02:49 PM
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You two can post on another thread if you do not like what I have to say. I never attacked you personally or anything you had to say. I hope you are not show people because your whole biosecurity BS just went out the door. As for rabbits going nuts when a stranger comes in to a rabbitry is BS too. I grew up on a production scale rabbitry and have visited many of others.
Prefesional growers only please.
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12/31/08, 02:57 PM
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There are enough Rabbit judges who live in the Pac NW who can give you all of the leads you might need. Look up Jan Coffelt (might be coffeldt) and Madelaine Boucher both of who live in the Everett / Kenmore, WA area. If these two ladies can't guide you to who to buy rabbits from no one can. Call ARBA and get them to give you names and addresses, etc too.
Anyone who would pay $300.00 for a production doe has more money to waste than anyone I know. I have superb NZ Reds and never have paid more than $80 for a pair, $100 for a Trio. For the $300 prices you are looking at top notch SHOW STOCK, which has no relationship to production.
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12/31/08, 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by klickitat
You two can post on another thread if you do not like what I have to say. I never attacked you personally or anything you had to say. I hope you are not show people because your whole biosecurity BS just went out the door. As for rabbits going nuts when a stranger comes in to a rabbitry is BS too. I grew up on a production scale rabbitry and have visited many of others.
Prefesional growers only please.
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Thats real proffecional calling us liars!
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Champagne D Argent, White New Zealand & Californian Cross Rabbits
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12/31/08, 03:09 PM
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YuccaFlatsRanch, Thank you for the lead.
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12/31/08, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by YuccaFlatsRanch
Anyone who would pay $300.00 for a production doe has more money to waste than anyone I know. I have superb NZ Reds and never have paid more than $80 for a pair, $100 for a Trio. For the $300 prices you are looking at top notch SHOW STOCK, which has no relationship to production.
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That is encouraging. What kind of feed conversion ratios are you getting?
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12/31/08, 03:16 PM
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I hope you do get some nice rabbits and this time when you bring them home make sure you treat for coccidioosis, so you stock doesn't die, like the first time.
If you grew up around rabbits you should have known they were sick.
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Champagne D Argent, White New Zealand & Californian Cross Rabbits
Last edited by SquashNut; 12/31/08 at 03:57 PM.
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01/01/09, 06:38 PM
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Having Triplets!
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Ok guys, I care about you all .. stop being so sensitive to this post plllllllleeeeaaaaasssseee!!!! ^_^
This person has every right to make their requests from whomever jumps up to the plate and wants to sell them rabbits.
If the post seemed snobby to anyone, it is ok to feel that way... but the best way to handle or deal with posts that are annoying or hurtful to you in any way is to just not allow it to get to you, state your opinions nicely and leave it at that (or to moderator). ^_^ Anything else/extra/extra commentaries whatsoever, is just giving fuel to the flame or so they say. Plus it can turn around and make you look bad... which is completely opposite of what you were trying to accomplish.
There's been great posts and bad posts on here towards me (thankfully mostly good), either way, it just doesn't matter to me, because I know that we work hard on our rabbitry to do the best we can and we are always learning and growing as are most of you that I know on this board! That's what matters! ^_^
Guys... don't be offended by the strong desires of a potential buyer, just stand by your rabbitry because you KNOW that you put 200% into it and KNOW that you have the best rabbits that you are able to supply to the market.
Both buyers and sellers have the right to look for opposites that attract and match up to their desires/wants/needs.. there may very well be a rabbitry on this board that will accept this person's offer and match up to them... giving them everything they were looking for. And I wish that success for anyone!
I've been in their shoes before.. being so frustrated with rabbits purchased not meeting up to my needs, etc... I just wanted to buy the best and MAKE SURE I found the best. With these type of feelings there is a tendency to want to come in and take control and look at everything.
But personally, after time... I realized that the best way to go about it "FOR US" was to establish relationships with people, then ease my way into seeing what they had, but usually with a relationship it is generally easy. Also, the relationship you have with someone will tell you wethor or not you can trust them enough to sell you a good rabbit.
My advice to the responders of this post... let a poster/potential buyer like this have their say, express their feelings about how comfortable they would be with a purchase and try to "be nice" and "work" with them. You will probably find that you come across a great sell and a wonderful future customer.
And by the way OP .. No rabbits available here, plus I would be too far away for you.
Happy New Year,
Cricket
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