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Old 11/08/12, 11:30 AM
 
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Best brown egg layers??

I'm thinking about getting a few brown egg layers. I've had just about every breed at one point, but now I only have cochins. Not good layers at all. I love the large heavy breeds, and must be calm. I'm leaning toward cuckoo marans, and barnevelders...whats your thoughts?

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Old 11/08/12, 12:21 PM
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Just keep in mind bigger bodies = crappier feed conversion. They require more food just to maintain those big bodies, not to mention to produce an egg.

The best brown egg layers are going to be sexlinks. I've had Isa browns, black sexlinks - and LOVE them. The black sexlinks are all different amounts of gold on their necks/bodies too. Super pretty.

RIR, barred rocks, hampshires do pretty darn good.

The big dark egg breeds like you listed are either hatchery birds that lay well but have poor color to their eggs - or from breeders which usually don't lay that well (from what I've heard) but have great color to the eggs.

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we have white plymouth rocks they lay nice brown eggs and are good duel purpose birds

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Old 11/08/12, 02:15 PM
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I have both Barnavelders and Marans. Mine came from private breeders. (Have some Buckeyes, and a new batch of TAMU Hi-lays that I got by accident to, but I'll just talk about the Barnavelders and Marans right now)

The Marans are pretty, good foragers, and steady layers of a medium-to-large, dark, dark brown eggs.

The Barnies are excellent foragers, lay large brown eggs that are darker than a RIR, but not as dark as a Maran. However, the Barnavelders impressed me by laying at full force through the worst drought we have ever had in recorded Texas history. Temps up to 110* for weeks at a time, and they laid 6 eggs a week per hen, like clockwork. Barnavelders are supposed to be cold tolerant and hardy, but as mine showed, they have excellent tolerance for all kinds of weather.

My huge, Barnavelder rooster has spurs nearly three inches long, but I have never seen him even hurt other roos with them, and he is sweet to his hens. I can pick him up and cuddle him, and all the reaction that I get is a disgusted look. "Don't you know that it is not *dignified* for a Cock of MY position, stature, and status to be picked up and *cuddled*? Have some respect!"

My Barnies are gentler and calmer than my Marans...but that is just my experience. The Barnies are larger, as well.

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Check out Welsummers...

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Old 11/08/12, 03:19 PM
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I love my welsummers
For maximum brown egg laying the sex-links can't be beat. I had one that laid 6 eggs every week. These very XLsize too.

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Old 11/08/12, 06:35 PM
 
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Thanks...looking at some Jersey Giants, Australorps, and Plymouth Rocks, mainly for the calm breed, and large eggs. Anyone have these?

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Another sex link fan here. And they are very calm, and hardy in cold weather. They lay 100% at their peak, and the rest of the time they lay minimum 85%. I have brown sex links, have not tried black yet, but I plan to for next year...

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Old 11/08/12, 07:25 PM
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Thanks...looking at some Jersey Giants, Australorps, and Plymouth Rocks, mainly for the calm breed, and large eggs. Anyone have these?
Any but the Jerseys. They're big birds - but take FOREVER (FOREVER!) to mature, 'meh' layers, and are terrible 'dual purpose' birds. I know - you're thinking bigger=better, right? Nope. Mostly bone until they're fully grown, and then their legs are so tough you can't even take the thighs. In our 'heritage birds', when we butcher, we take the breasts and thighs (drumsticks too sinewy on 4-5 month old roos).

Terrible feed conversion. Only do Jerseys if you're not expecting productivity, or efficiency. I imagine some 'crappier' quality hatchery stock lay *fairly* well, but not impressive. Just IMO. Any of the true big birds (show type) probably are worse layers and are huge. Tons of feed cost to maintain that huge (mostly bone) frame.

I do like my australorps, decent birds, but I've only had a couple to be honest. The roos were gorgeous. The plymouth rocks are OK layers, from what I've heard from a friend. You'd have more sucess with laying ability from barred rocks or white rocks, which are more common and therefore selected for better production, IMO.
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Old 11/08/12, 07:34 PM
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Australorps, barnevelders, cucko marans would be my pick but I think what lines in what breeds also matter. I'm not sure all the hatcheries out there get their chicks from places that are breeding for high egg production.

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red sex link hens are hard to beat . I have 6 austra whites , they are leghorn and austrolup cross and they are great layers. a calm bird as are the sex links. I have 5 marans and they are not as good at laying eggs. I got my marans from a hatchery and the eggs so far are not as dark as I thought they would be.
Only one maran is laying so perhaps I will get some darker eggs from the other 4. my chickens are 6 months old and just started to lay.

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RIR, Austrolorps and Naked Neck Turkens have been the best layers for me.

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sex links such as: Golden Comets and Red/Black Stars are typically your best brown egg layer. I am dying to get a hold of some Copper Marans but from what I understand they aren't as prolific a layer.

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BTw, I have had some Buff Orphington's and they are pretty good layers as well. Though (at least from my experience) tend to eat more than the others.

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Old 11/09/12, 12:28 PM
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I want to try some turkens this next year. I'm fascinated by their looks.

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THANKS, THANKS...I appreciate the feedback. Good point about the large breeds (Jersey Giants), and feed consumption. You guys are helping me narrow it down to a just a few of my favorites. BTW...I honestly thought I was going to quit the entire chicken thing...cost of feed, and blah blah blah...but I'm kind of disappointed with the small and scarce amount of eggs from my beautiful Cochins. Out of 7 hens, I'm only getting maybe 2 eggs a day (medium size)....and I have 6 more young Cochins that should lay any day now. I'm trying to wait till spring, and see how I feel about this whole thing....think I'm gonna cave?? Really wanting the marans, and barnevelders...Sighhh

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Old 11/09/12, 11:18 PM
 
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My cochins have been disappointing egg layers and broodies...they're pretty, though.

Alot of people are put off by the Turkens. I think they're adorable! Especially as chicks. I've crossed mine w/Wyandottes and Dorkings. They grow out nice w/good breast and just LOOK like supper.

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I had the sex links, and the copper marans. I sold them! The copper marans are sort of nervous, and ok in appearance. They did lay a dark egg, and started early. I had Welsummers, and didnt have much luck with health, and don't think they're pretty either, got them from Ideal.
What hatchery are you guy's liking? I have a friend that breeds a good variety, but I wanted to get all the breeds at the same time. So, I'm thinking of a hatchery. I only have ordered from Ideal in the past. Now I breed my own Cochins, and have been able to achieve a hardy, large size bird. Too bad their eggs don't compare.

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These are the places I order. Won't beat these prices anywhere.

Schlecht Hatchery

Sunnyside Hatchery, Inc. - Beaver ----, WI (BBW turkey for 3.83 ea! WE get our white leghorn pullets here, too.)

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I'v got a menadree of lots of heavy breeds most crossed up and home raised i'v always liked the black sex links .roadisland reds.new hampshires are a calm natured bird .I'll also the americonas with the green eggs

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