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Old 10/08/10, 08:36 AM
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It's all about trust

I sometimes hear comments from folks that generally go like this:

"You can't trust a (boar, sow, hog); never turn your back on it!"

"You can't tame a mean hog!"

"All of you 'hobby farmers' who play with your pigs are not real hog farmers."

Today I added a post to my blog that explains why I treat my hogs as I do. Why I "play" with them and don't have any fear being with them. I thought it might be interesting to this group so I'm reposting it here:

It’s all about trust

When I talk about some of the things I do, such as give belly rubs to my hogs, talk with them and look them in the eye, let them rub against me (not the most sanitary thing…), sit with sows while they are farrowing, check ears, feet and eyes without having to restrain the hog, some people doubt that I am being totally honest. This is because they think of hogs as aggressive man-eaters that can’t be tamed or trusted.

I’ve recently made a point of proving that my hogs are docile and easy to be around when people come to the farm. I bring the visitor to the fence and then I walk into the hog herd and start scratching them, rubbing their bellies, checking their ears for parasites, talking to them…

Silly, isn’t it?

The truth that I have learned is that if your hogs trust you, they will let you do your work. They will let you do all the things you must do, such as check them for parasites, examine and treat injuries, examine teats to ensure they work and know when they are about to farrow (even feel their babies move around inside them), check their piglets and treat those that need help. If your hogs trust you they will let you check their teeth, give them injections and oral medication, without having to restrain them. The truth is: my silly methods allow me to be a hog farmer without needing all of the expensive restraint hardware that modern farms require. My method, in my opinion, is better.

And it’s all about trust. Belly rubs, soft talk, ear scratching, just making sure to say “hi” to each hog every day, all of these techniques have a purpose. If my hogs know that I am not going to hurt them, that I pose no threat, then they trust me to touch them and check parts of their bodies as I need to. It makes my work easy.

I have taken in mature hogs that their owners described as “just mean”. Boars that would rip you to pieces if they could. Sows that fight every time they see each other. But within a couple of weeks after being on my farm they all have become very docile and content. This happens because they just did not trust their previous owners, due to the manner in which they were treated, but they learn to trust me because I don’t do the things that scare or hurt them.

So, how do I build this trust? It all starts with an understanding of hog behavior. Hogs may seem like predators with their large teeth, loud growls, and big size. But they are actually prey animals. Hogs are food for predators and their instinct naturally makes them distrust other animals like dogs, bears and people. The way to overcome their fear is to give them no reason to fear you.

It starts when they are born. I am there whenever I can to soothe the sow and let the piglets see that I am part of their new world. A couple of days after birth the piglets are walking around with mom, and I am there too. I don’t try to grab or hold the piglets (unless necessary for their health). I am just there. After a week or so they start walking over to me, sniff my boots, play around me, and then I know that I have not done anything to make them fear my presence.

The process continues as they grow (if we keep them). They become part of a herd that trusts me and the herd’s behavior reinforces their knowledge that I am not a threat. When the new pigs show me that I am accepted I then start touching them, scratches and belly rubs begin, and that becomes part of their daily routine. Then they start welcoming me when I visit and asking, through their grunts and behavior, that I provide attention to them. It is then that the process is complete. They don’t fear me, I don’t fear them, and I can do whatever is needed to assure their continued health.

When we talk to new pig owners my sweetie and I explain how they can achieve the same:

1. Take them home and put them into a healthy environment.

2. For the first week, don’t try to grab them or pick them up. Just go into their environment, provide clean water and good food, and sit with them for awhile. Talk to them, read a book, but don’t try to touch them. If they start coming to you, let them but don’t react other than to speak in soft tones.

3. After the pigs start welcoming you and touching you, then you can start touching them. Don’t grab them, don’t try and force them, just scratch their ears and necks if they let you.

4. Once the scratching becomes a welcome thing then start with the rubbing. Pet them as you would a dog or cat. Move your hands down their sides and rub their bellies. When they lay down for a belly rub, they have fully accepted you and trust you. And you can do what you need to.

We know this restraint (on your part) is hard. You want to pick up your new cute piglet, want to hug it, but doing so would make the piglet feel “captured”. For a prey animal this means danger! Don’t make it think you are a predator. The process is essential if you want to be able to easily check or treat the pig whenever it needs it.

Be the friend that your pig wants and it will trust you to do “weird” things.

It’s all about trust.
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Old 10/08/10, 09:29 AM
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Well written. Pigs are herd animals (prey), not pack animals (predators). Handling makes a big difference in taming. Any mean animals should be culled. Temperament is genetic to a large degree so breed for calm, gentle animals.

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Old 10/08/10, 09:43 AM
 
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I noticed this with my sow, everyday I pet rub, and talk to her (but I don't dare get near her mouth), and hope to have the same relationship with the gilt of hers that I am keeping to build up my herd. The only time I am cautious is when I have to get one of her kids. She lets me handle them, but if they start squeeling I definatly get away from her, she is extremly protective when she thinks they are in danger.
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Old 10/08/10, 01:01 PM
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Nice post, Brian. I relish in the comments we get from farm visitors about the hogs "They're so friendly." "Are they talking to you?!" and the like. Why yes, they are friendly, and yes, in their own way they are talking to me. They always do.
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Old 10/08/10, 03:03 PM
 
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Mine are cupcakes. My 10-year-old goes in with them and they get him filthy with all their sniffing, but they're big babies. It really just takes a pat or two every time you go in with them and they're like big dogs. I know I'm going to eat them, but they can be happy until then.
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Old 10/08/10, 03:32 PM
 
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I have tamed, trained, and turned around wild, exotic, and domestic critters.

My critters all roam free on the property.

I raised a lot of mules out of my Mammoth jack and broodmare band. I rode the Mammoth all the years he bred. I hand bred with no help. Each mare's 'stall' was 1/2 acre and had a loafing shed (3 sides and a roof). None of the mares delivered inside. I didn't go into their area until the foals nursed.

Folks were surprised that I could easily put a halter on and take it off of a newborn foal. The mares trusted me, so the foals also did. When the foals were 3 weeks old, mare and youngster were turned back out with the herd.

I've always had a bunch of roosters in my free roaming poultry flock. None have ever attacked me, other humans or critters and they don't fight. The hens don't peck me when I collect eggs or when I'm around the babies. I don't handle my birds, even as hatchlings, but I can easily pick up any of them if I want to.

When the processor would come out to butcher a hog, they always said the same thing - this just isn't normal! The pigs are in front of him, waiting for a belly rub.

I've heard butchers say that the 4-H kid's pigs have a great carcass. They contribute much of it to the critters being handled a lot.

One hog didn't go into the freezer; he hitched to a cart and took me for rides. He wore a large belt of bells around his girth at Christmas time. Never objected even the first time they were put on him.

I recently got another mule. He's new to me so I have to earn his trust for us to be good riding partners. It doesn't take long.

The same week I got the mule, I got 2 gilts and 1 boar. Asian Heirloom Hogs -- aka Potbelly pigs. Totally wild. The PBP meat breeder never handles her pigs. They roam free on her acreage. Sows deliver wherever they want. She baits a cage with their favorite foods to catch them. She butchers on her truck tailgate.

The pigs would run from me and the other critters, but fell in love with the mule. The mule likes them. I used the mule in the taming process! I often see my poultry taking a ride on the back of the mule.

Yep, earn a critter's trust and they'll do just about anything for you.
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Old 10/08/10, 04:23 PM
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I have made it a habit, EVERY morning(sometimes evenings as well) to spend time with ALL of my animals(pigs, goats and chickens), in an attempt to show these animals that I am their friend(only a moron kills his breeding stock).
I started with chickens 3 years ago, and found that they were easier to handle once they realize that I am a benefit to them......
I figure the SAME applies to pigs and goats.
My Kiko/Boer buck would not originally come anywhere near me when I first got him.
NOW, if he gets out of his pen, all I have to do is say: "Billy, come here" and he come right to me.....
I wonder if "Sadie", one of my gilts, will behave the same in the future......
I think it is all in making things easier for the farmer to do such things.
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Old 10/08/10, 08:34 PM
 
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Excellent post! Our boar Thor is a gentleman. I'm sure it was because of how the previous owner raised him. Our sow that we raised is the same way, just a little more "bossy" when she's due to litter, like she is right now. Good breeding and well cared for animals are the key!
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Great post Brian. Great information. This is they way we treat our animals. If we need to be done beside a sow in farrowing we are htere and they trust us fully. Our boars-even with wicked tusks-are very tame and we can sit beside them and they do "talk" to us. It is funny to see one of us sitting down on a piece of tree stump and one of the hogs sitting beside us as if in deep discussion. We treat our animals with trust, respect and kindness.
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Funny you post this today. My dad was just commenting today on how tame and "spoiled" my animals are. He was specifically referring to my Dexters but my Guinea hogs are the same way. Lady at the feedmill could not believe I was buying "cookies" for my cows. She said she hated buying cows from people like me because they were pets. No they are not my pets...but I treat them in such a manner that I can handle them without the problems that are so often attributed to "wild" farm stock.

I appreciate that others treat their animals the way I do!
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I wanted to thank you for this post. I honestly believe my uncle deliberately picked the meanest pigs to breed in order to frighten people away from the area he kept his still in. They made a strong impression on me as a child so I still get nervous around pigs after they reach a certain size. This morning I went down to the pen and made an effort to make friends with my piglets. I did exactly what you said and while I haven’t gotten close enough to touch them yet they do seem more relaxed around me. I suspect your advice may make a huge difference in how well this enterprise works out.
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Old 10/13/10, 10:27 AM
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Glad to hear it! This method has worked for us many times and our hogs are all push overs (actually, lay downers...)
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Old 10/13/10, 10:32 AM
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Interesting thread. Thanks.
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Old 10/13/10, 01:43 PM
 
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Cool party trick!....when my Rudy was a baby I would piont my pistol finger at him and say "Bang! Dead Pig!" then rub him on his fall down to be scratched place. Works everytime!
I feel much less crazy knowing others spend time with their porkers too.
I love the monkey noises he makes when he wants some attention.
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Well written. Pigs are herd animals (prey), not pack animals (predators). Handling makes a big difference in taming. Any mean animals should be culled. Temperament is genetic to a large degree so breed for calm, gentle animals.
Walter, I almost agree with you. I'm 100% on breeding for calm gentle animals. But as someone who raises both sheep and pigs in coyote country, pigs are a different kind of prey.

The sheep are prey, and need a guard. Draft horses and cattle work, but they tend to trample lambs. So we now have big white dogs. More coyotes mean less kibble to buy.

We also, once, had coyotes go after 5 adult pigs and 13 piglets. I wasn't home at the time, and Lisa doesn't do guns. The coyotes traded seven adults (vouched for by Fish and Game) for six piglets and a tail. I'm glad the pigs had coyote to eat, because it was three days before they would let anyone in to feed them. It's been a year now and the coyotes howl a lot but have no interest in prey animals that think coyote is high protein food.
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Old 10/17/10, 04:45 PM
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Old 10/18/10, 07:45 AM
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We've had our Tamworth boar (Albus Dumblerboar) since he was 10 weeks old, and he's always loved belly rubs from me. But now that he's a big manly man boar, he'll only let me scratch his tummy if Frank is nowhere to be found. If Frank is not there, this 700 pound boar lays days and wiggles in anticipation. If Frank is around, Albus walks away in disgust if I ask him if he wants me to scratch his tummy. It's too funny.

We, too, can let people in with our herd.

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