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Old 04/04/08, 09:48 AM
 
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What is pig labor like?

My gilt is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO uncomfortable right now. Yesterday she was breathing hard but today is even worse. She is antsy too a bit but yet just wants to sleep and lay sprawled out. She is fussing with her nesting a lot when she gets up. She keeps putting a bunch on one side but then kicks out a bunch out the door. And just all antsy.. Her vulva is quite swollen today. Yesterday I sat by her as she was laying down. No milk could be expresed BUT I could see movement in her belly here and there. So I hope it means she has a very full womb LOL.

What are signs of labor in pigs? how do they act in labor?

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I found this..../

Signs that the pig is ready to farrow

The sow becomes restless and starts to make a nest within 24 hours of giving birth. The teat will produce milk when gently squeezed.

Blood stained fluid may be passed from the vagina 1 to 2 hours before birth begins and if small greenish pellets appear the first piglet will appear within an hour.

Gently rubbing the udder will make the sow relax and lie on her side in the position to give birth.

Normal farrowing

Farrowing is a natural process and the sow will usually need no help. Once the first piglet is born the others, and the afterbirth, will quickly follow. Farrowing should be completed within 2 to 3 hours. The navel cord will break (you do not need to cut it) and the piglet will immediately search for a teat and milk. If the navel bleeds, tie it tightly with a clean string or cord.

When and how to help in farrowing

If the sow shows all the signs of farrowing but she has not produced a piglet and is pawing with a hind leg, or if 45 minutes has passed since the first piglet appeared and there is no sign of the second you will have to help the sow.


· Wash your hands and arms with warm water and soap and scrub under your fingernails.
· Wash the region of the vulva.

· Make your hands soapy or put olive or sunflower oil on your hands.

· Put your hand into the vagina and feel for the piglet or matter causing the blockage and try to remove it.

Clear the piglet's mouth and nose of mucous and if it is not breathing you can slap it to encourage it to breath. Gently rub the piglet dry and put its mouth on a teat.





Is there anything to add to this? Walter??

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Old 04/04/08, 11:43 AM
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We have sows that go an hour inbetween pigs, and sows that have 15 pigs in 2.5 hours. When I have to check a sow, I like to wrap my fingertips in bandaids and it doesn't hurt so bad to pull those little guys by there mouth.

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I will keep that in mind. How do they tend to act the last few days? Aside from milk in teats, is there really any way to get an idea of when they will farrow? I'd hate to go run errands and miss the whole thing. I'd love a warning of at least 12 hours but yet I read that not all farrowing sows/gilts will have milk neither as a warning

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If the sow shows all the signs of farrowing but she has not produced a piglet and is pawing with a hind leg, or if 45 minutes has passed since the first piglet appeared and there is no sign of the second you will have to help the sow.


· Wash your hands and arms with warm water and soap and scrub under your fingernails.
· Wash the region of the vulva.

· Make your hands soapy or put olive or sunflower oil on your hands.

· Put your hand into the vagina and feel for the piglet or matter causing the blockage and try to remove it.

Clear the piglet's mouth and nose of mucous and if it is not breathing you can slap it to encourage it to breath. Gently rub the piglet dry and put its mouth on a teat.
If this your first farrowing, it's not time to play vet....If you are not timed just right you will do more harm than good, if see's not down...and they can and will get up, she will kill you...even the pet ones..... Farrowing skills come with time and the ability to known when to intervene.... that is the final skill learned, and even then - not perfect. If I have a downed sow and I can't get her in a crate, of some form of hobbles....she will just have to die, I'll save her the pain if necessary, but this can be very dangerous.
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Oh I don't plan on attempting any of that part Redhogs. I did help with the birthing of a goat once but it was very obvious she needed trouble and it was right after we had lost another goat to the same problem. The pygmy goat had been bred to a large large breed goat. So the kids were getting stuck when it was birthing time. I had to put down the first doe and by the time the second one went to kid, I had studied up on it and knew what to do. Course I didn't have to dive in or anything with the goat. I just had to rearrange the hooves and tug real gentle as she contracted and the kid came right out. Pygmy goats dont intimidate me but my gilt REALLY intimidates me. I plan on watching BUT from the top of the septic tank and looking down. I do not want to be right there with her. Shes like 380 lbs of muscle and she could hurt me badly. I really don't think anything could get me to go in and try to help her. Shes very gentle normally but I know how ----y I get in labor myself so magnify it by twice the weight and put in animal instinct and nope... I will watch from afar lol

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Old 04/07/08, 01:53 PM
 
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Has this pig had her babies yet? I'm curious.

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nope not yet. Today or tomorrow. Today marked 115 days from when I believed she was due to cycle but yet tomrorow would mark 115 days from the day they mated the most. Thursday marks 115 days from the night that the boar went back to his farm LOL. So we are coming down to the last few possible days.

Shes fidgity today. She has had more bowel movements this morning than I have ever saw her do in a short amount of time. My 9 yr old was out there earlier and she said that she is passing a bit of green fluid sometimes when she sits down. I watched her pee once and i'd say there was a bit of green cloudy fluid at the end of her peeing. I dont konw.. It might just be our wishful thinking. I still cannot express any milk from her teats. I will upload pics and show you how she is looking today

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Old 04/08/08, 10:29 AM
 
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sounds like her water broke. Today will be the day.

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Ooh I sure hope so. I went back out and did some yard work and she acted like normal. I am concerned though. She has no interest in being in her pig shelter. Pigs do have the sense to go to their nest right? I mean.. when the time does come for birth?

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This was about a month ago if you remmeber



And this is here this morning.....




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Old 04/08/08, 07:43 PM
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I agree with ChiChi- I'd expect to see a LOT more udder development when she's really close to farrowing. Don't be surprised if she doesn't go until Fri or Sat if today is day 114. I often have gilts that go to 117 Good luck!

If you can express a **little** milk, odds are you are 24-36 hours away. If you can EASILY express milk (and in most cases you will be able to), don't leave the farm!

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Well today would be her date accordign to the day of lots of mating but we didn't return him to the farmer til Dec 20th which means she could have til friday. But of course she could go late too like you said.

There was no milk yet today. I am sad.. LOL. Last night was a horrible tstorm and i thought she would HAVE to give birth during a rotten evening but alas,, she dind't lol

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You know what... I think the waiting is worse for this pig than I ever felt with my own pregnancies!

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Old 04/09/08, 01:05 PM
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she don't look that close to me. Like the others said, not enough udder development. She will get huge and her udder tight.

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I don't know if it is the same for PB's but, mine started grabbing mouthfuls of hay and shoving it in her house and packing it all around... she got real busy doing that the day before she went into labor. I also noticed that she really got huge udders over night. I thought they were going to drag the ground. She also slept in her birthing house for the two nights prior and didn't go in with the other animals to sleep. she stayed in by herself. good luck and can't wait to hear and see pics..

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Old 04/09/08, 01:33 PM
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No offense, but you fussing over her isn't helping things. Just be patient, keep an eye on her, and everything will be fine. I never make any special plans to attend the birth of our pigs, and have never had a sow that needed me to intervene. Sows birthing pigs is one of those miracles of nature, very seldom is any human intervention required. Give her shelter and nest making material, good feed and water, and leave the rest to her. She doesn't look anywhere big enough to be as uncomfortable as you make her sound. Are you sure she's the one that's uncomfortable, and not you? LOL

Forgot to mention:

Some sows don't come into milk real heavy until just AFTER the pigs are born. I wouldn't spend too much time worrying about her not having milk right now.

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LOL No I am probably more miserable than her LOL

Its like im expecting my first child all over again. Her heavy breathing reminds me of a baby pressed up against my diaphram and all LOL.

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I don't know if it is the same for PB's but, mine started grabbing mouthfuls of hay and shoving it in her house and packing it all around... she got real busy doing that the day before she went into labor. I also noticed that she really got huge udders over night. I thought they were going to drag the ground. She also slept in her birthing house for the two nights prior and didn't go in with the other animals to sleep. she stayed in by herself. good luck and can't wait to hear and see pics..

Well shes the only one and she has all the straw available already.. Her shelter looks like shes a hotdog in the middle of straw "buns" lol. Not sure how else she might change a nest for birth tho. She looks comfy though. I guess I will just watch her udders but otherwise leave her be
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They can really surprise you. We have a sow that just farrowed this week - finally. She had been looking extremely bagged for the past ten days or so. The good news is a nice litter and loads of milk for them.

Each morning I would try to milk her to see if she was close. Then she began nesting hard. The next morning we had more piglets. The nesting behavior is a very strong clue as is when she starts letting down milk. Gilts, e.g., first time sows, don't do the milk let down as strongly or get as firmly bagged up as experienced sows.

I think she was crossing her legs waiting for good weather.

This week we weaned two other sows and have three more that are getting close. Patience...

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Any news? lol Don't leave us hanging!

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LOL

Nothing! Shes still holding strong. I notice each day shes a little more defined in that area but nothing. I checked her teats today and still dry. Tomorrow marks 115 days from the day we took the Boar home. I think I am on day like... 117-118 from the day of the big mating day.

Being that shes developing and all... and her teats are definately looking different and at a fast speed, she HAS to be pregnant right? I mean... she wouldn't do this just naturally right? LOL

Do any of you have pictures of the teat area on their "just about to farrow" gilt? I want to see gilts because of course that is what I have. And if you have Landrace's, even better! I saw Walter has some Landraces and I looked all over his blog for a picture of something that could ease my anxious mind lol but it just made me "awwwww" over all and didn't help with my question. .But OOOOH I CAN"T WAIT FOR PIGLETS!!!! lol

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OKay..I am showing her progression this week in her teat area LOL. I am seeing a difference so it keeps me going.. as I try to remain patient

April 8th


April 9th


April 11th... (sorry I have no april 10th lol--lotsa rain)

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Old 04/11/08, 10:16 AM
 
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Shall we start a piglet pool?

What day will she give birth and how many piglets will she have? (first timer)

Ooh and let us also guess how many boys and howmany girls will she have? lol

Here is mine..

Tomorrow night and she will have 8 piglets.. 2 boys 6 girls lol

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Old 04/11/08, 10:20 AM
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Hey, she will have them when she is ready. Good luck, and don't worry, Mother Nature knows what she is doing.

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I have four sows and they always deliver a night around midnight and I always hear the piglets squealing.

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Here is a picture of one of my gilts which is due tomorrow.http://

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She definitely looks closer

I say 11 total, 7 gilts, 4 boars!

I was mentally comparing her to my gilts who are due, and they look only a little more developed than yours is right now. I had a Duroc X go to 120 days this week too, lol. And my Landrace always seem to go a lot longer than the others, thats pretty normal for them (mine anyway).

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Id say 4 more days 10 total 6gilts 4bors.

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SHES BEEN NESTING BIG TIME ALL DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHAHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


Shes finding every last twig , root, pine needle and adding them to her piggy nest. I even tossed in some rabbit fur that was on the ground from the new mamas and she grabbed that and its all mixed in her hay now!

Should I be concerned that I cannot find any milk yet? Maybe I am doing it wrong though. But shes very very very very very busy nesting. I am going to go outside hourly and see what shes doing. Its raining but its better than it being in the middle of a snowstorm

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