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Old 09/28/16, 12:39 AM
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Presa Canario Guarding dogs

So I have LGDs on my property (raised from pups) for fowl, sheep, cattle, horses( I don't think the cattle, horses need guarding but yeah) however I am interested in a Presa for the house plus farm protection. ( I just want a well rounded dog that can come out on farm chores with me and not cause issues.)

Anyone own one of these dogs and live in farm country. My Pry's will get along with anything I introduce them too, they have proven this. (I do foster dogs for a no kill resucue on occasion) Finding a breeder within a decent distance is proving difficult.

I will drive a good distance to get the "right" dog, my main concern is to find a reputable breeder. I want a healthy dog that will hopefully live with me for quite a many years.
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Old 09/28/16, 12:51 PM
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Seems a bit risky based on what I read, especially since they're rare and you'll probably be shelling out some serious cash. Is that the only breed you're looking at?
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Old 09/28/16, 08:27 PM
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If you are looking for a long lived dog, this isn't the breed. The larger the dog the shorter the lifespan. Plus I would think the price would be high as they aren't easy to find.
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Old 09/28/16, 10:22 PM
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Their lifespan is similar to GPs. No, not long lived, but it is what it is for a large breed dog. I am not fearful of the high price I am just having a hard time finding breeders anywhere near me of that breed for family/all around dogs. The bulk of what I am finding breeders wise are breeders that sell to celebrities etc for personal protection. To clarify, I had a foster Presa that was a wonderful addition to my farm/household. He had been hit by a car and when he went in for amputation of a leg he bled out and didn't make it. He was the ideal showman for how a Presa should be socialized with people and other animals. I miss him and would like to bring in another one but as a permanent family member. Just curious if anyone else has experience with them as they are a "mastiff."
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WOW Those dogs are huge and very powerful looking! Their look alone would deter most 2-legged intruders. I like what I've read about them and wouldn't hesitate to bring one onto my place to mingle with my 2 dogs (Karakachan and Labrador), goats and assorted fowl. Getting it as a puppy seems a must with a dog like this because I would sure not like to have to teach it of my alpha position were it in its adolescents!

Do let us know when you get one and run a thread on how it does at your place. I find those canines quite interesting!
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Old 10/04/16, 12:20 AM
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WOW Those dogs are huge and very powerful looking! Their look alone would deter most 2-legged intruders. I like what I've read about them and wouldn't hesitate to bring one onto my place to mingle with my 2 dogs (Karakachan and Labrador), goats and assorted fowl. Getting it as a puppy seems a must with a dog like this because I would sure not like to have to teach it of my alpha position were it in its adolescents!

Do let us know when you get one and run a thread on how it does at your place. I find those canines quite interesting!
Yes, I do think a puppy is a must with the farm, children and other dogs/pets. I imagine that I "could" find a rescue dog that needs a home but it takes months + to really learn an adult dogs behaviors/tiggers. I would feel safer getting a pup that I put the energy in to train/raise.

I will keep you posted, I have found a few breeders within day driving distance hours from us. I plan to go visit and meet the parent stock before deciding which breeder to obtain a pup from.
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An update

Well I have been researching breeders still at this point. Amazing how quality breeders can be so hard to find (especially when you have an ear on the rescue side of it). Found a few that I am still reviewing and researching. In the meantime I have been fostering Presa Canario's for a rescue group that is breed specific that just happens to be more local to me (local to me is an hour away, we are in the boonies!)

This is Gracie, she is only two and is slowly learning that people are a positive thing in her life that she actually wants to have around. She was likely a breeder bitch in a kennel out back....dumped after pups were weaned. For dogs that are quite costly they are apparently thrown away as often as the next breed. I am not surprised by this but it still makes me sad.
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It’s too bad they cut her ears off. Are you going to keep her?
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Itís too bad they cut her ears off. Are you going to keep her?
I may, I would honestly prefer a female dog (my last Presa foster was male.) It generally takes a week or more to really see the dogs personality come out so I won't know until then whether or not she is even a possibility to continue to stay on the farm. She has only been with me for 4 or so days at this point.

Cropped ears are the breed standard. Most dogs of this breed are cropped, some of them aren't done well.
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The breeder doesn’t cut the ears, the new owner does. So, if you get a puppy, you can leave the ears. They are necessary for communication, and with a dog that size it’s something good to have.

For aggression, I give it two weeks. I hope she turns out good for you.
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