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Old 04/16/05, 03:18 AM
 
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Immunizations

Some people don't give their critters
immunizations and some do.
When I had goats I gave Bo-c and
A & D *(I think I have that right, it's been years)
anyway I was curious what folks are doing now a days and why?

In regards to immunizations and CAE testings.
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Old 04/16/05, 08:10 AM
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i give tetanus, and thats it
im more hands off in regards to shots, i have bose , and a and d and pennicilin on hand for PRN, but i dont routinely administer injections

part of the reason is my does are in dry lot, the other part is we are a certifed naturally grown farm , and i am prohibited , by the usda organic standards from giving anything other than whats absolutely needed

even for ex. the pennicilin , i dont use that unless yogurt hasnt worked, .generally the only time i worry about that is if i have had to do an internal exam , when i do that, i simply feed yogurt to the doe for 2-3 days after, and it prevents most infections
if it wouldnt, then i would document it, and give pennicillin

for worms i feed DE with thier grain , so its not an issue either sincen othing can resist the DE , unlike other worming products and "medications"
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Old 04/16/05, 09:22 AM
 
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Bo-Se *will* now become a routine with my newborns, though we are not in a dificient area, I have been recently informed that it doesn't carry through the colostrum...and I had a problem this kidding. So I now have a new one to give one or twice in the first week of a newborn's life.

CD&T at disbudding time and another one three weeks later, then yearly. I test fecals 3 times yearly to see if they need de-wormed, and with what. Other than those I only give antibiotics or vitamins,etc, as needed...

Sarah
(who is a firm believer in Probios, too!)
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Old 04/16/05, 10:11 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bethlaf
for worms i feed DE with thier grain , so its not an issue either sincen othing can resist the DE , unlike other worming products and "medications"
are you doing fecal exams? is the de really working with worms? how much de do you feed? since when are you using it? how about cocci treatment? just curious
susanne
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Old 04/16/05, 09:39 PM
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Others using DE for worming?

Are their other people out there that are using Diatomateous Earth (DE) for worming that have documented proof that it works (IE: fecals performed before De and then again after)? .....Dennis
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Old 04/21/05, 02:11 PM
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How much DE do you use? Do you put it in the grain each feeding or when? How often do you use DE.

Thanks!
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Old 04/21/05, 08:02 PM
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DE believer here...

We had a vet do fecals, and at that time
the barn was kinda crowded and pasture
overused. He found one or two worm
eggs in the sample, which astounded him.

Another vet some years later reinforced
our movable pens and pasture rotation
as reducing worm loads...having seen
infested goats, I tend to think ours are
NOT. It helps to know what to look for.

If I had reason to suspect a worm load,
I'd mix about 2c. DE with a T. of molassas
and enough water to make it slurpable,
give it to the goat while on the milking
stand so you can observe that all is
eaten by that particular goat. Repeat
the next day as a follow up.

Otherwise, about 1t./cup of grain helps
prevent a build up by daily taking care
of what few may be inside. This doesn't
take care of non-intestinal parasites,
but hey, if the goats aren't weighed
down with these kinds of worms, they
are not as health conpromised, and should
be less susceptible, IMHO. We've gotta
look at ways to clean up the food chain
and quit enriching the drug companies.
I applaud you TWOGOATS for investigating
this method, and the rest who are already
using DE on your homesteads!!
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