Just wondered what your thoughts were on my doe

[Croenan]

I have a doe, that I have posted about before, when she had developed udders a few months back. (vet gave her some antibiotics, and it slowly cleared up) She also had a day where she acted like she was in labor, with discharge and pushing! (all my boys are wethered)

Fast forward a few months. Goat has developed blood in her urine, took her to the vet, and it isn't stones, he didn't tell me if she had WBC in her urine or her temp. They catheterized her and lots of urine came out, even though she was struggling to pee. Some flow is drops and other times, its a tinkle, but not a real goat pee. She also cried (mildly) a few times when she peed. My first thought is injury. I have another doe that beats the crap out of her. (I hate that goat!)

Anyway, Doc sent her home with antibiotics, antiinflammatory and crossed fingers. It could be cancer of some sort. She also had fluid in her uterus and what looked like an implantation site and she had MILK! (and this was 2 months AFTER that false pregnancy) He said he didn't really have a clear idea what it was and we would just watch her. When I got her home, she was perky and ate well, but was very attached to me.

2 days later, she is not eating well, still peeing blood, but not as dark. I gave her the vit b and probios and was able to hand feed her various fresh greens, leave, grass, etc. I was worried that her rumen stalled. She moved slowly, but did trot once or twice when I was out with her (to get away from me)

Day 3 She is still mobile, she has moved around the pen to sleep in different spots, but she still seems blah. She did look a little bloated last night, and was stretching her back legs out a couple of times. I will examine her again shortly so see if I think its bloat, but I just don't think it is.

I know I am all over the place with the post, but any thoughts or bits of advice would be great. Have you ever had a goat with cancer? If so, thoughts on how I might be able to tell if she has it. I am ok with putting her down if she has cancer, but I think this "not eating" spell is from the stress of going to the vet, just a delayed reaction. I just don't know if its that or if her body is telling me something else.

Should I try treating her for bloat if I can't rule it out? She doesn't seem to be in pain when she is laying down. How often can I give her Probiotics? I gave her 10mg yesterday. I gave her oral B complex 2 ml in the am 2 ml pm (she is 50lbs) Should I have done or do a shot instead? She needs an antibiotic shot tonight, should I give her anything else as well? Thoughts are good, I will double check any advice, but that advice keeps me from going stir crazy while I wait for changes in her condition, and you guys are always sooo awesome!

Thanks!

[Clovers_Clan]

It sounds like a "cloud burst pregnancy"... http://kinne.net/flspreg.htm
And possible UTI complications. I have no experience to offer. But if symptoms don't improve with antibiotics(UTI) maybe an ultrasound could give you a better indication of what's going on. A false pregnancy will clear up completely, but cancer would show a mass, I would think.

[mygoat]

Ultrasound can be difficult in big animals because it just doesn't penetrate well. It very well could see the bladder, though. Antibiotics should help so long as the bacteria is susceptible. If damaged, it may take a while for the blood to make it's way out. If she doesn't improve soon, perhaps another visit with the vet is in order.

Animals with other issues going on can lactate due to the many ways prolactin is stimulated within the body. The changing seasons and environmental stimuli can also cause lactation.

[Croenan]

Thanks guys. We did see the Uterus in the ultra sound. The Doc said he did feel a small mass near her rectum as well. She was doing really lousy late yesterday afternoon. Wasn't wanting to move much or eat or drink. I roused her up and got her to nibble a little bit here and there. i gave her more B and a small dose or probiotics. When I went to put her away, I had put some hay in the dog house she has been hiding in and she started eating it slowly. Then oddly, she picked up, ate more and then came out to drink. (She has been eating too much fresh food for my liking). A short while later we got her out browsing the yard and my roses and she has been fairly perky since then. Not 100% but if you didn't know a sick goat, you wouldn't know she was sick.

We tried to give her the antibiotic shot last night (armpit skin) and she had a hissy fit, falling over and such. She hasn't done that before when I have given that to her in the past (or earlier this week). I am probably being played, but we backed off the shot last night and will give it to her this afternoon. I hope it goes well.

Its an SQ shot, hind quarters isn't the best, (nerve damage) arm didn't do well, where else is a good place to give her the shot? I can't remember, its been a while.

[mygoat]

What kind of antibiotics? The regular oxytetracycline 200mg/ml just stings like the dickens anyways. That could be why she freaked (I prefer BioMycin for this reason - same drug, no sting). If using a drug like penicillin, let it warm up a bit before injecting - some just hate the feeling of freezing cold something inside of them. :P

I'd give it in the armpit/over the chest in that area. You can also do in front of shoulder under the skin with smaller injections. Depends on her dose.

[Croenan]

The medicine is nuflor.

[mygoat]

Yes, nuflor is one that is painful/irritating when injected.