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Old 11/10/14, 01:14 PM
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First time testing - do I have this about right?

We got our Nubian does as bottle babies from a clean tested herd.
They are approaching 10 months and I'd like to have them tested for CAE, CL and Johnes. First time around and I'm a little confused so I'd like some feedback.

Is this right?
For each doe:
CAE, CL & Brucellosis testing from WADDL - is one red topped vacuette (3 cc blood) per doe sufficient for all 3 tests?

G6S - I don't believe our source herd tested for G6S, so I want to. I know it's a one-time test and as far as I can tell - only done by TVMDL. This time a lavender topped tube is required (not red). Is it just one tube per doe?

So this means two needles/syringes/sticks per doe - once to fill red top and once to fill lavender tubes?

Johnes pooled fecal - I can't find any directions on how much/how to package the goat berries?

Last question -- Is there a 'secret' place to buy small quantities of tubes?

Thanks in advance.
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Old 11/10/14, 09:08 PM
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I personally don't do brucellosis because we're a brucellosis free state. You may choose to do different. I test yearly for CAE/Johnes (Elisa), and my herd is 12 years abscess free so I stopped testing for CL. I DO still test NEW animals for CL, CAE, and Johnes 2x before introduced to the main herd and after a 3 month iso period, but I rarely bring in new animals.

You can just use a 6ml syringe and get 6mls of blood out of each doe with one stick. Put 3ml in a red top and 3ml in a lavender top.

I use the 3ml red top tubes from PBS/Jeffers. I'd just order a whole case because they really don't go bad...

As for purple tops I'd go buy some from a local vet. One per doe. G6S is EXPENSIVE - I'd ask the source breeder if they did do the testing already, just in case... If you can get a copy of the parents' negative tests, then you don't have to test at all (It's genetic - if parents aren't carriers, the babies can't be either).

For pooled johnes, you can do just baggies of berries, clearly labeled. You could also get urine cups from your vet, or conical tubes, but it's really not necessary. I believe the test needs at least 1 gram of feces... You don't really want to skimp, though. I'd get a 'handful' per. (Is it sad I measure goat poo by the handful? *sigh*)
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Old 11/11/14, 06:52 AM
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Thank you so much. Helps me connect the dots very well.
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