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05/27/14, 10:31 AM
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Is this a real breed?
I just saw someone selling "mini macha" kids. I've never heard of this before. Is it a real breed or just poor breeding? The kids are on the moms. Would you buy a kid raised on the mom or are they too wild? Anyone with experience here?
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05/27/14, 10:53 AM
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The "mini" (then whatever standard) are a breed that many of us are starting by using a nigerian dwarf buck on a standard doe. Then using the offspring to start the new mini breed. They are being registered with these registries.
http://www.tmgronline.org/
http://miniaturedairygoats.com/
There websites also include much info on these breeds.
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05/27/14, 11:36 AM
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What punchie said ^^^^ 
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05/27/14, 11:46 AM
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I started my own herd of MiniManchas.
I used LaMancha does and Nigerian Dwarf bucks. The percentage for American and purebred can't exceed 70% of either breed.
I'm trying to get all with gopher ears, I personally don't like elf ears.
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05/27/14, 11:48 AM
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Thanks!
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05/27/14, 12:02 PM
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Yes. It's real. Mine are registered.
Cassie and her quintuplet bucklings.
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05/27/14, 12:37 PM
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I've wondered what the advantage of this breeding is and why it's different than kinder goats?
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05/27/14, 12:54 PM
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I don't know much at all about kinders. I recall doing some research and I didn't find any breeders near me. I really like the LaMancha and wanted a smaller goat. There are also no MiniMancha breeders around me so this is why I started my own.
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05/27/14, 01:14 PM
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Addressing the mom raised vs the bottle raised question, as long as the babies are handled regularly in a kind and loving manner they will not be wild. There are several threads on here that will tell you more about this issue. Everyone has a preference or opinion about it. It really depends on how you want to raise them. My goats are a mixture of both bottle and dam raised and they are all in your face, on your lap, please pet me, sweeties. Mostly because I treat them like pets (even the slaughter wethers).
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05/27/14, 01:43 PM
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They make a substantial amount of milk on very little feed. Plus, they are so darn cute!
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05/27/14, 01:49 PM
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Wait................what?
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Ha, you were reading the Wyoming craigslist weren't you? I was just looking at that ad, too.
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05/27/14, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by thermopkt
Ha, you were reading the Wyoming craigslist weren't you? I was just looking at that ad, too.
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Yes well those does are officially mine so back off interloper! lol
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05/27/14, 02:10 PM
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So Opinions on this peeps???
http://wyoming.craigslist.org/grd/4489701263.html
A good buy for first time goats? I really wanted Lamancha but I have to say the mini version sounds really appealing to me.
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05/27/14, 02:11 PM
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Wait................what?
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05/27/14, 02:19 PM
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How much milk are you wanting? They don't sound like they give all that much, but I don't know enough about smaller goats yields to say if they are good producers for that type or not. Another thought is hand and teat size. A friend of mine has ND's and I hate milking them just because I have large hands and they have small teat size.
I think they are a bit pricey, but admittedly I am cheap. I am not interested in registered goats either. Purely personal preference there. Also I seem to notice that the mini's go for more than full size.
There aren't any good udder pics there but they sound like they are worth going to take a look at. Then you can really look at the animals, the udders, the teats, how friendly they are, etc. It's a perfectly valid excuse to go look at goats. 
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05/27/14, 02:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thermopkt
How much milk are you wanting? They don't sound like they give all that much, but I don't know enough about smaller goats yields to say if they are good producers for that type or not. Another thought is hand and teat size. A friend of mine has ND's and I hate milking them just because I have large hands and they have small teat size.
I think they are a bit pricey, but admittedly I am cheap. I am not interested in registered goats either. Purely personal preference there. Also I seem to notice that the mini's go for more than full size.
There aren't any good udder pics there but they sound like they are worth going to take a look at. Then you can really look at the animals, the udders, the teats, how friendly they are, etc. It's a perfectly valid excuse to go look at goats. |
It is quite a drive for me so if I make it I'm coming home with a goat. lol
For milk I'm looking at enough for my family and that's it. About 2 gallons a week on average.
I've seen so many prices for different goats and breeds that I'd say that is fairly average. $50 more than the full size LaMancha's I was looking at but if they eat less that'll be a bonus as far as my husband is concerned.
Registered or not doesn't matter to me. Just looking for family milkers.
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05/27/14, 03:30 PM
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05/27/14, 03:34 PM
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05/27/14, 04:47 PM
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Nehimama, that's the best mini teats I've seen!
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05/27/14, 04:52 PM
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Thank You, Alice. That's what I'm aiming for in ALL the minis I breed!
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