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03/16/14, 07:38 AM
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shocker
Sharing this to help prevent others' injury.
It would appear that using a livestock shocker to teach a mean Boer buck to keep his distance (after he decided that treating us like another buck he needed to oust was appropriate), caused him to believe that more than just a stick would have the same result as the shocker.
DH grabbed a horn (common practice for years with other bucks) to move him to another pen and the buck bolted to the side and back. DH's bicep was torn and it needs surgery.
This is the first goat we've ever had that wanted to hurt us, so it was the first time that we had used a shocker. He had cornered me in the barn and bruised my legs in several places, and had rammed DH when he was feeding out in the field, before we got the shocker. Nothing made an impression on him until after he was shocked, then he kept his distance when we carried a long stick.
He's only 2 years old, so we weren't ready to replace him when he became so mean to us.
Moral of the story...don't expect them to be cooperative when you touch them, if you've taught them not to come near you.
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03/16/14, 09:18 AM
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Agree. Also, life is too short to keep aggressive animals.
Hope the surgery goes well.
Huggs,
Alice
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03/16/14, 10:44 AM
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If they do something like that around me, it don't end well for them.
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03/16/14, 11:58 AM
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We had an old buck who was mean when I was a child. We learned that he HATED getting wet so all we needed to have with us when we went into his pen was a spray bottle. Finally it got to where he would leave us alone when we spit at him. Goats are weird!
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03/16/14, 01:24 PM
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Hope surgery goes well for your hubby
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03/16/14, 02:33 PM
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Do I smell goat stew? Seriously, get rid of him. No animal is worth getting injured. Or even having to worry about being hurt. Too much stress. Hope the operation goes well.
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03/16/14, 04:24 PM
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Get rid of him or make him to go to freezer camp. They can kill you. We had a guy get pinned on the ground by a boar goat here he died as a result of the traumas inflicted by the goat. 
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03/16/14, 08:56 PM
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My name is not Alice
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I hope DH's arm heals fast. Downtime is no good for anyone. You wouldn't need to explain your reasoning if you moved this buck down the road.
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03/17/14, 04:39 AM
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HOW do they DO that?
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My brother had a bicep tear, came totally detached at the shoulder, surgery was very successful. Best of luck.
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03/17/14, 02:04 PM
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That is totally understandable. A powerful animal that has become afraid of you is as dangerous as one that isn't, I guess.
I've heard of mean Boer bucks once or twice and was actually discussing this subject yesterday. My current buck is a real sweetie. Yes, he is a pest and follows me when I'm out in his field, but he never tries to head but me or get pushy. I may keep him and sell his one daughter that is bred too closely to him to be bred back.
At any rate, sorry for the tough lesson learned. Hope all goes well.
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03/17/14, 03:40 PM
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Keep in mind that temperament is a highly heritable trait, so if you want to avoid mean aggressive problem animals, don't use this buck!
Bad gig all the way around!
Hope your husband recovers quickly.
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04/01/14, 08:00 AM
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So far, so good. The surgery went well and the doc splinted it for 2 weeks because of DH's "normal" activities. He got unwrapped yesterday and is very sore and will still use a sling for a couple weeks until his next appointment. It's going to be a very slow process.
This pic looks like how the repair was described to us and the tendon is supposed to grow back onto the bone.
https://www.arthrex.com/distal-biceps-repair
As for the buck, he didn't go to the sale with the kid bucks on Saturday and is confined to a large pen in the barn for now. He charges the gate and the wall if he can see you through the cracks. We've had several Boer bucks and never had one so aggressive and apparently, UNHAPPY!
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04/01/14, 10:08 AM
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Louisa, VA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mamagoose
As for the buck, he didn't go to the sale with the kid bucks on Saturday and is confined to a large pen in the barn for now. He charges the gate and the wall if he can see you through the cracks. We've had several Boer bucks and never had one so aggressive and apparently, UNHAPPY!
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Why do you still have that buck?!? Do yourselves a favor - put a bullet in his head and put him in the freezer today!
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06/04/14, 10:29 PM
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What value is that buck to you? If you breed him, you have some increased risk of kids with similar disposition. I don't know what is up with the situation now, as its been a couple of months since the last post, but if he is still around and charging people, it is time to put him down. There are some animals that just don't have the disposition to be useful. That is why there are bulls and broncs in rodeos.
One comment in referenced to dealing with horned goats. Many use the horns as handles. You can get away with this on some goats, but it is a challenge to a goat, a social cue that you are engaging in dominance play, and can encourage horning and butting. If you need to "handle" animals, consider collars or halters.
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06/05/14, 04:07 AM
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It sounds like you like that buck's temperament so much that you are willing to face it not only during his lifetime, but to choose to have it in his children, grandchildren, and further descendants for decades.
Personally, that sounds to me to be potentially suicidal, and a money-losing proposition as well.
Last edited by wogglebug; 06/05/14 at 01:35 PM.
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06/05/14, 05:36 AM
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chivo guisado -braised goat
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