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02/22/14, 09:13 PM
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Milking machines
Well my wife hates milking little teats(meeeee toooooo) and she has to use both hands on big teats. Lol. My hands cramp. I've had issues for years in my elbows and hands. (Go to sleep and cramp, etc) (not having surgery) anyway. I've been looking at milkers. I really like the Perry company and what they have to say. They have one for $850 and one for $1200. Thoughts. I plan on buying one as soon as I decide but I like to hear opinions. I'll be milking at least 12 by May unless I buy more. (Sold several milkers the last few weeks)
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02/22/14, 11:22 PM
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By attending auctions and flea markets I was able to put together a system for about half of that.
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02/22/14, 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by sammyd
By attending auctions and flea markets I was able to put together a system for about half of that.
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Yea. I've seen parts and pieces. I was thinking all new and ready to go with warranty.
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02/23/14, 12:14 AM
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Can't speak for brands and such, but I can tell you that your life will change
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02/23/14, 12:35 AM
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Can't speak for brands and such, but I can tell you that your life will change 
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For the better
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02/23/14, 12:51 AM
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Well we have just the one milker (3 more potentials, once the tiny buck gets going)...
But, daughter came home from school with a brochure for a milking machine that a friend's mother swears by- sorry am in town for work (back Wed) will get you the info then...
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02/23/14, 06:39 AM
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When I milked cows I had a surge milker powered by a generator. It helped a lot because my hands cramped and my joints ached when milking by hand. And I took a lot longer so the girls got a lot more grain to keep still. Switching to the milker saved on grain and time actually milking. But you will spend that saved time cleaning the components. I would rather spend the time cleaning the components  Everything has to be taken apart after each milking and cleaned and sanitized. It comes apart easily. A few tips I learned: carefully monitor the milk output so the udder is not overmilked. Sanitize the teat before you let her loose again. Purchase the special dairy detergent to clean the bucket and components. Its worth it. Btw, I've never done business with that company but their system seems to be built around a surge. I think the surge is the best choice for goats.
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02/23/14, 06:50 AM
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I recommend Perry's Milkers.
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02/23/14, 08:49 AM
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You might want to look at Parts Department http://www.partsdeptonline.com/.
or Hamby Supply. http://hambydairysupply.com. There systems may be a little bit higher but you get a new vacuum pump. If you go with Perrys get a DeLaval type bucket.
I don't know much about Perrys but from what I have seen in the past the vacuum pumps are rebuilt Surge pumps from the 50s and 60s. Nothing wrong with the old pumps. I had one at one time. It's what my dad used when he was a kid to milk cows. They are just getting up there. I have the 1.5 Horse from Parts Department and I really like it.
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02/23/14, 08:50 AM
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If my pump was rebuilt, you couldn't tell it. Or I couldn't.  How do you tell the difference?
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02/23/14, 10:30 AM
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I'm going with Perry's. New everything or completely rebuilt everything. 1200 or 900. Set up for two goats. I like the pump that doesn't blow the oil everywhere. I've liked my email communication so far. I asked for quotes. He already stated discount if I pay by check or money order. He sent me a brochure. I like the fact he's been doing it 40 years and it's a family operation. I haven't found a thing I don't like.
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02/23/14, 10:39 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Doug Hodges
I'm going with Perry's. New everything or completely rebuilt everything. 1200 or 900. Set up for two goats. I like the pump that doesn't blow the oil everywhere. I've liked my email communication so far. I asked for quotes. He already stated discount if I pay by check or money order. He sent me a brochure. I like the fact he's been doing it 40 years and it's a family operation. I haven't found a thing I don't like.
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Whats up with the oil blowing everywhere?
I have never used a milker before. My friend brought over her milk cow for me to babysit and a milker she had just bought. Its a surge but with some type new pump. Every time I milk there was a yellow hue on the snow around the pump because of the oil it blew out. What a mess if I had been inside a building.
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02/23/14, 10:51 AM
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Oil blowing....
I tried a small vacuum pump from one of the mail order places. It's oil cooled, so it has an oil reservoir. From the air exhaust, it blew an air/oil mix. NASTY.
Get a sealed, non-oil requiring vacuum pump.
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02/23/14, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Alice In TX/MO
Oil blowing....
I tried a small vacuum pump from one of the mail order places. It's oil cooled, so it has an oil reservoir. From the air exhaust, it blew an air/oil mix. NASTY.
Get a sealed, non-oil requiring vacuum pump.
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I will let the gal know that they have sealed non-oil requiring pumps. Good info. Thanks!
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02/23/14, 12:25 PM
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Alice, It says on his webpage, that the pumps are rebuilt, and if you are getting a pump from that era you want them rebuilt. If they have new vanes in them they should last a long time !!! I will say that old Surge pump I had was a lot quieter then my new one.
Mrs. Whodunit . The unit should have a muffler on it that reclaims that oil. Sounds like they have just let the muffler off and it is blowing it everywhere !!
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02/23/14, 12:27 PM
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Vanes? Is that something I can see or are they inside?
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02/23/14, 12:36 PM
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Alice, they are inside. That is the main thing that can wear out on those old pumps. You will not get the suction(CFM) you need if they are worn or bad. I keep my eye out for those old pumps on CL. If I could find another one cheap, that had good vacuum I would buy it.
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02/23/14, 01:41 PM
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02/23/14, 02:20 PM
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Yep, I had the vanes go bad on my old pump. It was a crappy one anyway. LOL. Try not to ever let any liquid into the pump, as that can get it messed up pretty fast (pretty sure whoever had mine before had overflowed it many times, based on when I first got it and a guy looked at it for me and cleaned out all the gunk, yuck!). I just got a pump from same guy that he had acquired from a lost freight something or other from the 50's. It is brand new, never used, even though it is old.  I think it is Delaval brand, I'll have to look again. It is powerful enough to run 2 buckets at once, and I got it for $400 and he even mounted it on a balance tank and gave me a muffler for it. I already have a surge bucket, but I'm going to get a delaval bucket at some point. I don't currently have a set up to milk 4 at once (two buckets), but some point in the future, I hope.
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02/23/14, 02:29 PM
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Muffler!! Oh, I wish I had one, or that my vacuum pump was outside my milk house. It's SOOOOOO noisy.
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