Help help please help I can't loose my precious Lily :((

Squeaky McMurdo · #1 01/02/14, 06:05 PM

Lily is down! She was laying in the mud but is still making noise. I put her in a warm bath to bring her temperature back up and now I'm holding her wrapped in towels in my livingroom. I tried to get her to eat no interested and tried squirting some molasses mixed in warm water in her mouth to get her enegy back up. I don't think Cocoa let her eat last night or this morning. I feel like a complete failure. If she dies, she'll be the 4th goat to die this year. She turned 1 in August.

Cannon_Farms · #2 01/02/14, 06:14 PM

dont give her anything orally until you take her temp if you can get her to breath warm air such as a heater with a fan on it start that.
But we need a temp before we can go too far as we have no clue if shes hyperthermic or just sick.

Alice In TX/MO · #3 01/02/14, 06:14 PM

Need more info.

Diet? Dewormed when? Lower eyelid color? Coccidia treatment?

Who is Cocoa, and why is she not letting Lily eat?

Squeaky McMurdo · #4 01/02/14, 06:18 PM

It's very low. Not sure the exact temp. All I have is a basal body thermometer and it goes up to 97 and then says LOW

The inside of her mouth feels cold too. And her eyelids looked nice and pink when I first looked but are getting pale now

Cannon_Farms · #5 01/02/14, 06:20 PM

if you have a heating pad warp it in a towel around her and her her where she can breath warm air. we need to know the things Alice asked about as well because they can be what caused her to succumb to the cold

Cannon_Farms · #6 01/02/14, 06:21 PM

towels in the dryer work well too, or blankets

Squeaky McMurdo · #7 01/02/14, 06:28 PM

She's now unresponsive. I thought she was getting better after the bath because she was maaaaaing a lot more but now...I'm not even sure she's breathing. And my dang husband had to take my phone mere moments before I found her

Squeaky McMurdo · #8 01/02/14, 06:38 PM

She's gone

Wormed about a month ago with Ivermectin, diet alfalfa pellets, whole oats, and grass hay with a steady supply of dried leaves and they have had my christmas tree (from the woods so no chemicals) since yesterday morning but have mostly ignored it.

Cocoa is Lily's mother. She beat the life out of poor Otto and Hercules and probably Gemini. I was literally going out there to take her picture to sell her with full disclosure that she hates any goat weaker than her. I never thought she would turn on her daughter though

GraceAlice · #9 01/02/14, 06:44 PM

Well that's weird that she passed so fast? What exactly do you think killed her? Have you ever seen her fighting back?

I'm very sorry.

Chief Cook · #10 01/02/14, 06:52 PM

So very sorry to hear about your loss. (((hugs)))

Farmer Jayne · #11 01/03/14, 07:06 AM

The eyelids going from pink to pale so quickly make me think maybe internal injuries? Many, many years ago I had a goat go into labor then die very quickly. She had burst an artery when she started pushing and bled to death internally. Of course, we didn't know this until after she was dead. This death sounds very similar except for the pregnant part. If this is what it was there was nothing you could do. You took good care of her in the end and she knew she was loved. Sorry for your loss.
I would put the other goat in the freezer.

Sending you good thoughts.

Pony · #12 01/03/14, 09:05 AM

Oh, darn. I am so very sorry!

Pony · #13 01/03/14, 09:06 AM

And yeah, that mama goat needs a one-way ticket to freezer camp.

Squeaky McMurdo · #14 01/03/14, 10:02 AM

I'm at an impasse with Cocoa. I can't get rid of her now because that would leave Toast all alone. She is really very sweet with all children and goats that are bigger than her so if I could find her a pet home I could recoop some of my losses and buy another goat in the spring.

Tango · #15 01/03/14, 10:14 AM

I'm so sorry. Don't feel like a failure- use the experience to learn and change what needs changing.

Gailann Schrader · #16 01/03/14, 12:18 PM

Have you already buried/composted her? If not, necropsy her. It may tell you what she died of so you can combat whatever is taking the REST of your goats.

I necropsied (sp) a goat some years ago and we found a ruptured major artery along the backbone. Nothing could have saved her and everyone tried.

Do you mineral your goats? Copper?

Good luck!

GraceAlice · #17 01/03/14, 12:39 PM

I agree, you really do need to find out what killed her so you can also find out if you can fix it.

dozedotz · #18 01/03/14, 12:41 PM

Sounds like your girl was injured to me. Let us know if you find out differently. It is hard to lose them, harder when they are still young. We have over the years decided that it is just best to let the younger ones stay together in a separate area or put a single keeper with a very mild older doe. They really can hurt one another - even without horns! Good luck with your decision - that's another tough one.

Doug Hodges · #19 01/03/14, 02:33 PM

Wow. So sorry. I don't keep an animal that is aggressive to this point. I'm glad my goats all like each other. I had an aggressive rooster a while back. He's in the freezer.

Again. So sorry.

hiddensprings · #20 01/03/14, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Farmer Jayne

The eyelids going from pink to pale so quickly make me think maybe internal injuries?

This was my first thought too. Many years ago I had a beautiful Angora goat that seemed fine in the evening and was dead in the morning. Come to find out, one of my hubby's nasty Boer goats, rammed her so hard, she broke ribs.......the internal injuries killed her. (hubby let me know about the ramming AFTER....men, whatcha going to do with them?)

Sorry for your loss.