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12/23/13, 07:13 AM
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Goat not well. Please help
I have a 9 month old buck and he hasnt been eating any of his grain for days wont even eat calfmana. He will only nibble on hay. His tail is down, temp is 102.7, poops are normal. Gave him Probios and some baking soda. What could it be? Also I heard they dont make Albon anymore is that true?
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12/23/13, 08:44 AM
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I'd give him some Pepto Bismol. We've used it before with goats with stomach problems. You might want to get him some electrolytes as well. He might be dehydrated.
I hope he gets better!
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12/23/13, 09:11 AM
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When my buck (or doe) acts like that, I give them a big glob of C.M.P.K. followed by a large dose of probios paste. I also stop offerring them grain for awhile. I suspect it is the rumen being upset by something; but as long as he/she is eating hay and not running too low or too high a temp, I don't worry too much.
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12/23/13, 09:17 AM
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Good advice. Hay, Pepto, Baking Soda (free choice).
Has he been treated for coccidia? worms?
Keep an eye on his temperature.
What color are his inner lower eyelids?
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12/23/13, 09:39 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alice In TX/MO
Good advice. Hay, Pepto, Baking Soda (free choice).
Has he been treated for coccidia? worms?
Keep an eye on his temperature.
What color are his inner lower eyelids?
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If his poop is fine he wouldn't have worm or cocci would he? How would it be that?
You might also want to give him some Tums. That is to treat acid problems in the rumen.
Cade,
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12/23/13, 10:04 AM
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You don't have to have a goat with the runs to have a goat with a heavy worm load same goes with coccidia. When they DO have the runs with these problems it is a very advanced state and it is often hard and takes a long time to get them back to a healthy state.
I would be watching this guy closely for pnemonia. Is he snotty at all? Does his chest rattle? It has been perfect pnemonia weather ( hete anyway) and believe it or not his symptoms sort of sound like it.. Watch his temp closely like Alice said. Wouldn't hurt to get a fecal done too.
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12/23/13, 11:31 AM
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As mentioned above, yes, it could be cocci or worms even if poops are ok.
Ditto on the fecal test.
If you can, listen to his lungs, too.
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12/23/13, 11:36 AM
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You have had some temps swings in FL haven't you? I second the fecal and since you are probably still warmer, if it was me I might even start di-methox before the fecal is back b/c when goats get down cocci and worms take advantage of the situation. Stop grain and offer hay, straw, pine (make sure they are ok to give), leaves, etc.
Does plantin or stinging nettle grow there? Willow or mulberry? They can help with stomach problems and are our "go to's" when ours have problems.
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12/23/13, 03:28 PM
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Gave him some sulfadimethoxine for cocci. I had also wormed him with ivermectin back on the 10th. He does have a little bit of a snotty nose now, temp 102.9.
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12/23/13, 03:44 PM
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Gave him some sulfadimethoxine for cocci. I had also wormed him with ivermectin back on the 10th. He does have a little bit of a snotty nose now, temp 102.9.
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I would still give him some pepto bismol and some tums. Also, try anything you can to keep him cool and keep his fever down.
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12/23/13, 05:43 PM
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How much of the cocci med and the ivermectin?
Cades, he doesn't have a fever. 102.9 is still in normal range.
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12/23/13, 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Alice In TX/MO
How much of the cocci med and the ivermectin?
Cades, he doesn't have a fever. 102.9 is still in normal range.
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Oh, i was thinking of as in humans. What would be considered a fever in goats?
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12/23/13, 06:55 PM
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A goat's normal temperature range is 101.5*F to 103.5*F.
http://www.tennesseemeatgoats.com/ar...hydrating.html
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12/23/13, 07:41 PM
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Gave him 6 mil albon. Will check on him when I make the last round for the night. I am also boarding 34 goats (23 pregnant) 4 look like they are ready to pop.
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12/23/13, 07:44 PM
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12.5% Albon S.R. [Sulfadimethoxine] and Di-Methox 12.5%[Sulfadimethoxine] GIVEN ORALLY are the exact same drug
The dose is 3.2cc per 5 lbs
http://www.dairygoatinfo.com/f28/coc...s-doses-21499/
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40% Albon S.R. [Sulfadimethoxine] and Di-Methox 40%[Sulfadimethoxine] GIVEN ORALLY
are the exact same drug- Just make sure when you look at Albon S.R. (slow release) the mg/ml, they are 400mg/ml. The recommended dose is 75mg/kg or 75mg per 2.2#
The dose is 1cc/5# for 5 days as a treatment dose
You may have underdosed. 
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12/23/13, 07:57 PM
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Can UC cause a goat to act under the weather, lose appetite? Just another thought, especially if he's on same diet as pregnant does.
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12/23/13, 08:05 PM
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Absolutely YES!
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12/23/13, 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Clovers_Clan
Can UC cause a goat to act under the weather, lose appetite? Just another thought, especially if he's on same diet as pregnant does.
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 DUH!! Why didn't I think of that!?!? YES!?!?
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12/23/13, 10:31 PM
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It has been warm and wet in Florida. Cocci could be a factor. I question the grain for UC problems. What have you been feeding?
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12/24/13, 10:56 AM
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Sorry what is UC? I give him 16% Lucas Feed and plenty of good hay. Plus free access to minerals. He eats the hay but only a few nibbles on the feed.
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