Pygmy Buckling we call Hornball

emeraldbutton · #1 10/22/13, 07:05 AM

We have two milking dairy goats, April and Blossom, and it is time to breed April. In order to keep Blossom company while April is away I got a pygmy buckling. Well April hasn't left for "her date" yet because the pygmy is too busy trying to get it on for us to allow him in with the ladies (he drives them mad with his snorting and love making attempts). They are seperated for now, we will be having a friend show us how to de-man the little guy this weekend. How long after we castrate Hornball until his behavior will change? We are new to the world of goats and I can't wait to have April bred!

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CAjerseychick · #2 10/22/13, 11:59 AM

If you breed them with the Buckling you will have meaty little dairy minis .... Google Kinders.....
We are getting a little Nigerian Buckling (that term Hornball is making me a bit nervous).....in a few weeks.....after he is weaned....

dozedotz · #3 10/22/13, 12:09 PM

We used to raise Kinders...they are meaty!!! Also, milky IF the lines are milky. Cute as buttons, but not graceful and elegant like Nubians. Our Pygmy buck, Iggy, was the best! He was also a "horn dog." In fact, I would be willing to bet that he could outlast our big boys any day!! lol. Never wethered him...he is now working elsewhere. I personally wouldn't trust the little fellow around the girls for a long while after wethering! Better safe than sorry.

emeraldbutton · #4 10/23/13, 07:09 AM

Thank you ladies, I completely think you are on to something great for us! This is my first post on this forum and I am so happy about it! We did some research on Kinders and in fact will be giving it a try as soon as our Nub goes into heat

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dozedotz · #5 10/23/13, 11:21 AM

DEPENDING on what you want, it is important to note that to LEGALLY call them Kinders the results of your breeding Pygmy buck to Nubian doe MUST be from REGISTERED stock - both parents. That may not matter to you at all, if you just want a nice, meaty kid and great milk from mom...but better to know in advance before you try to sell any kids. Kinder is trademarked or whatever they call it and there are standards for that breed, too. Like I said, if it is not important, no problem. Enjoy the results!

CAjerseychick · #6 10/23/13, 11:56 AM

Does anyone know how active the Kinder association is? There purportedly is a herd IN MY TOWN (teeny little town) but that Person completely ignored my attempts at outreach, so.....
we ended up with a registered Oberhasli and ND buckling.. (and a few other goats to make a herd for them) and will probably go with mini Obers....

dozedotz · #7 10/23/13, 01:56 PM

CAjerseychick, If you are still interested in doing something with Kinders, I would recommend that you contact Brenda Lee at www.kalispellkindersandmore.com for really good information and help. There are several people in the Kinder organization who are extremely helpful and good to work with...she is one of the best. You will also benefit from people who really know their goats (in general).

CAjerseychick · #8 10/23/13, 02:51 PM

Thanks Dozedotz,
we are making friends with our goat vet (she is a dog lover as well like me and has the 2 brothers of our great pyr/ anatolian pup)...and she is a great help/ although our free Oberhasli wether is really running up the vet bills haha....
but who knows maybe in a few years.... after we wether our little Nigie buckling (or eat him)....
Goat vet has a herd of 60 breeding pygmies though (I just now remembered this Hmmmm)....

dozedotz · #9 10/23/13, 03:05 PM

Sounds like a pretty good plan! Good Luck!