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09/21/13, 04:39 AM
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What do you recommend for neutering bucklings? Band? Burdizo?
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09/21/13, 05:26 AM
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I prefer banding, some on here use the burdizo and some cut.
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09/21/13, 10:31 AM
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We band too. They never seem any worse for wear. The deed is done so quick and then poof they are off playing again. I think the tetanus shot bothers them more than anything!
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09/21/13, 09:07 PM
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I used to use the burdizzo with much success. Then, I had a few failures, and felt awful for having to torture the poor little guys again. The burdizzo really didn't seem any less stressful for them, and it takes more time, plus you have to clamp both sides, so crunch em twice. I think I'll stick with the bands now. Or what I'm really gonna try to do, is just send them as bottle kids to the salebarn before I have to deal with any of it...unless I plan to eat one. I have also cut a friend's bucklings that were too big for the bander she had. It wasn't toooo bad, though I'm sure worse for them than the bander.
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09/21/13, 09:41 PM
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I use Burdizzo. If you miss you do have to re-clamp. But after you get the hang of it, it's simple and quick. No worrying about infections. The pain is short and they are completely back to normal the next day. Please do be aware that they are still fertile for a couple of weeks until the sack dries up completely. I follow the instructions on the Fias Co Farm website, Good information about other methods as well.
http://fiascofarm.com/goats/buck-wether-info.htm.
This is also a good link:
http://www.esgpip.org/PDF/Technical%...20No.%2018.pdf
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09/21/13, 09:45 PM
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I prefer banding but a friend showed me how to cut them so we'll see about next kidding season.
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09/22/13, 12:45 AM
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Ours always danced to The Green Rubber Band.
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09/22/13, 06:50 AM
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Banding. Easy. Almost no stress.
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09/29/13, 06:49 PM
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We've banded all the boys (except for the two that were going to be studs) and although I haven't used the crimpy thing or cutting, I feel it's as humane as one can get when getting rid of unwanted bucky part. Some boys walk funny for a few minutes, others just kick their legs around for a bit, but every single one of them went right back to playing or nursing.
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09/29/13, 07:40 PM
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Bander here too
Worst thing is they pout for a day or so
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09/29/13, 10:07 PM
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I cut, if i wether at all, usually just eat them at 3-5 months old before their sisters come into heat. If they are cut, I have seen the two testicles myself and know for a fact that they are 100% fixed, no surprises later on!
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10/08/13, 08:11 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by onebizebee
We band too. They never seem any worse for wear. The deed is done so quick and then poof they are off playing again. I think the tetanus shot bothers them more than anything!
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I've banded all 4 of my pygmys, they seem a little stiff legged for 3 or 4 days and were off their feed for a day or so. They ate, just not the usual amount. My question is the tetanus, how much of a dose for small pygmys, I got the syringes from TSC and it's a 1 ml dose. I thought I read somewhere to lower dosage for smaller animals. It says .5 ml for sheep, go with .5 or should it be lower for the smaller goats?
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10/08/13, 10:39 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dieseldoctor
I've banded all 4 of my pygmys, they seem a little stiff legged for 3 or 4 days and were off their feed for a day or so. They ate, just not the usual amount. My question is the tetanus, how much of a dose for small pygmys, I got the syringes from TSC and it's a 1 ml dose. I thought I read somewhere to lower dosage for smaller animals. It says .5 ml for sheep, go with .5 or should it be lower for the smaller goats?
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I've never given the tetanus antitoxin at banding or disbudding. Keep in mind the antitoxin is NOT a vaccination - it is an antitoxin.  The vaccination (toxoid) should be given when they're 4 and 8 weeks of age (which is when we vaccinate here) in ADDITION to the antitoxin if you decide to use it.
The dose for vaccinations is ALWAYS THE SAME for all breeds of goats, no matter the size.
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10/08/13, 10:45 AM
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Those of you that band (this is the route we will most likely take), at what age do you prefer to band.
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10/08/13, 04:14 PM
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So far I've only banded minis, but I band at 4-8 weeks. I'll probably band the standards at 4 weeks. I noticed that when they are banded younger they seem to walk stiff legged and want to lay down longer. I think its because when they are smaller and the band isn't *as* tight it takes longer to completely cut off circulation.
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10/08/13, 08:52 PM
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Around 8 weeks
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10/09/13, 06:52 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mygoat
I've never given the tetanus antitoxin at banding or disbudding. Keep in mind the antitoxin is NOT a vaccination - it is an antitoxin. The vaccination (toxoid) should be given when they're 4 and 8 weeks of age (which is when we vaccinate here) in ADDITION to the antitoxin if you decide to use it.
The dose for vaccinations is ALWAYS THE SAME for all breeds of goats, no matter the size. |
Thank you, I recently got these guys and I doubt they have had anything done. Basically a spur of the moment thing,granddaughter out,wife wanted goats these were cheap enough. Didn't do much research til AFTER, made all the mistakes. I have other animals so it's not that bad, just had to band them, their horns were already grown when we got them. They said they were born in may, so I figured I'd give them what I'd heard they needed.
Thanks again
Walt
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