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07/06/13, 07:03 PM
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Fact or Fiction
I usually LOVE goat people but met a person today that rake over me like fingernails on a chalkboard. I was at a farmer's market that I sell at once per month. Another vendor came over to introduce himself and told me he also raised goats. YEAH...I thought, another goatie. It went totally downhill from there. First, he started to tell me how Nubians are a poor choice for a dairy goat, that his Togs were far superior milkers. Hummmm, what? Next it was "how many do you milk?" I said "I am milking 9 right now." He said "oh that's nothing, I'm milking 90." I said "oh you must have a dairy." He said "no, I don't. I milk by hand." I said "you milk 90+ goats BY HAND?" "yep" As my hubby would say I was a good girl and didn't say Next it was "where do you show your goats?" I said "I don't. I am not interested in showing." Him: "well you will never get anywhere if you don't show." He's going to have a grand champion, blah, blah, blah. The conversation went on for another 10-15 minutes until, luckily, a customer came up so I could excuse myself.
Sorry, I don't mean to vent but you guys are such positive folks. I rarely run into a "know it all-I am a superior goat person-pain-in the butt" individual. In fact, I avoid them like the plague.
So, could you hand milk 90+ goats everyday? 
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07/06/13, 07:14 PM
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 If you are so unfortunate as to have to talk to him again, try to find out how long he's had goats and if he has help with all that hand milking. I wonder what he does with all that milk if he doesn't consider himself a dairy farmer?
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07/06/13, 07:36 PM
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So, could you hand milk 90+ goats everyday? 
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Not without a machine and then only maybe. I don't have goats but watched my grandfather then uncle then cousins milk 150 Holsteins 2x a day by machine; it took HOURS and there were no "I don't feel like it todays".
Sorry you were subjected to Mr. Perfect and glad a customer interrupted. (Even more glad he didn't interfere with that conversation--I'm surprised he didn't.)
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07/06/13, 08:09 PM
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Sounds like Jack Topper in Dilbert.
If he's milking 90+ goats a day by hand, he doesn't have time to be hanging around bothering you!
I'd have been so tempted to grab the fire extinguisher to put out his pants.
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07/06/13, 08:21 PM
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Sounds like that old Saturday Night Live skit. "Oh, you have nine goats? I have nineteen, um... Nineteeeeee... Ninety, Yeah ninety, that's the ticket. And I milk them... by hand. Yeah, by hand... with one hand tied behind my back, yeah..."
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07/06/13, 08:46 PM
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Reminds me of "Blessed Are The Cheesemakers." Maybe he has ten pregnant vegetarian un-wed mothers-to-be milking and singing the soundtrack to The Sound of Music.
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/8...e_Cheesemakers
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07/06/13, 09:02 PM
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LMAO. We had the interfaith shelter here to help on the farm in return for milk, fresh produce, and fresh butchered rabbits... Most people didn't have to do much work but had a blast.
Anywho, had a guy here that used to raise rabbits. And goats. Kept giving me helpful advice...
Like for worms, they used to put apple cider vinegar in their water. "Never had to deworm them!"
Wouldn't have been so bad if there wasn't so MUCH 'helpful advice'. He was just trying to be sweet and nice... but I wasn't going to follow any of it, and there's really not a nice way to phrase that.
I milk 3 by hand and dream of getting my dad a milking machine, lol, because he hates our FF'ers teats (I think they're quite nice for a FF, but he's got big man hands...). 90 by hand, and having no time is right. That's gotta take HOURS every day! I imagine he wouldn't have time for a farmer's market where he can bother you if he milked them all by hand. He's gotta have help if he's milking 90 by hand. Machines aren't THAT expensive - it'd totally be worth it for that many.
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07/06/13, 09:03 PM
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Pfffttt! I milk 92 with one hand behind my back! And that's before the sun comes up.
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07/06/13, 09:24 PM
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Well his goats probably jump on the stand and squirt the milk out into the buckets themselves... and the milk is so perfect that it forms instantly into gourmet flavored cheeses that ship themselves across the country to people so grateful for perfect cheese that they mail him boatloads of cash to pay for new replacement pants every market day.
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07/06/13, 10:16 PM
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Have you read this one yet? Is it worth forking out the $$$ for it?
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07/06/13, 11:25 PM
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a herd of 90+ Toggenburg show stock in the area produceing milk and only God knows what else would actually be something hard to keep quiet for very long, so if he IS actually in the area with a herd like that and if he IS in the show ring getting a grand champion or what ever then he should be known by SOMEONE,
I would have been hard pressed not to call him on his BS and try not to choke lol, there are just soooooooo many issues with his story I bet he couldn't tell the same story twice lol.
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07/06/13, 11:32 PM
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Liar liar pants on fire
I don't even know where to start with his story. You could drive a Mac truck through all the holes in his "story". Sometimes there are just super odd people out there.
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07/06/13, 11:44 PM
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90 GOATS BY HAND? By the time he got done with the morning milking, the goat he did first would have mastitis! Besides, seems like he'd have some awful issues with his hands. With all the time it would take, how often, it seems like the milking motion would somehow mess him up...
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07/06/13, 11:52 PM
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5 minutes per goat would be 7.5 hours of straight milking x 2 is 15 hrs of straight milking a day, forget feeding and milk handling LOL. Ain't nobody got time fo dat! Your hands would fall off.
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07/07/13, 12:55 AM
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I honestly dislike people like that.  You don't have to show to be the best goat breeder in the world. In my opinion quality has nothing to do with papers or ribbons or quantity for that matter. Think about how all breeds started. Someone said hey lets breed for this or that. Does that mean I don't want to have a grand champion Lamancha some day? Nope but I'm not going to sacrifice what I want in my herd for what a judge says.
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He's going to have a grand champion, blah, blah, blah.
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He's going to huh? I guess that means he's not yet so he's nothing in the goat world but hot air obviously.
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07/07/13, 02:12 AM
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If you bump into him again, ask to come watch him milk. Insist on it. In front of everyone at the farmer's market. Make him put up or shut up. <EG>
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07/07/13, 03:24 AM
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Pity the poor man; he probably didn't take his meds that day, that's all
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07/07/13, 05:45 AM
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HOW do they DO that?
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.......I'd have been so tempted to grab the fire extinguisher to put out his pants. 
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Have you read this one yet? Is it worth forking out the $$$ for it?
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Try your library...
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07/07/13, 06:28 AM
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I have Blessed Are The Cheesemakers on audio book. I listened to it before I started making cheese and loved it. Have listened to it twice since I started making cheese. It improves with age.... like cheese.
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07/07/13, 07:40 AM
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I think I would have asked him how he ever found the time to attend the farmers market. I think he must have one of those new super duper Delavel milking machines that do ten at a time automatically. Probably take him only 15 minutes to milk the whole herd Must of been hard not to say "you're so full of s%*t that its running out your ears".
You know, you can understand that kind of talk from an 8 year old kid. It is a shame that this dude has such a poor image of himself that he is still acting that way.
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