Badly Attached Teat

JustinRobinsREO · #1 02/14/13, 10:19 PM

I looked at an Alpine today that had horrible teat attachment. Besides the showing aspect why is it a bad thing? Sorry to ask, but I am very curious the reasons behind not wanting that.

**mygoat** · #2 02/14/13, 10:24 PM

And what do you mean by horrible teat attachment? Bad teat delineation? Thin base? huge teats? Placement too far to the sides, front, rear, center? Or the whole udder was poor?

We can help with why certain faults are faults if we know more about what the problem was.

JustinRobinsREO · #3 02/14/13, 10:28 PM

lol sorry...I did end up taking her in. I will put her on the milk stand real quick and take a picture. brb

JustinRobinsREO · #4 02/14/13, 11:12 PM

Sorry for the poor quality pics. Between the camera phone and Miss I don't want to cooperate it was difficult to get good pics. I guess she kidded 6 weeks ago and he pulled the kids off today and wanted her gone. I milked her first thing when I got home due to her being so big and then again just now. She gave a half gallon earlier today and half of half gallon just now.

CaliannG · #5 02/14/13, 11:19 PM

Oh poor girl! That is not bad attachments; the poor girl has been over-uddered!

That is when people, either purposefully or ignorantly, do not milk out a heavy producer, and her udder and teats get all stretched out from it.

I have one that I adopted with the same problem. When my friend first got a hold of her, she could barely walk around her udder and her teats dragged the ground. At one point, we milked 3 whole gallons out of the poor thing.

Your girl's udder is not quite in that bad of shape, but the problem is that she has been badly over-uddered and it has stretched/blown out her udder and teats.

KrisD · #6 02/14/13, 11:26 PM

Poor girl has no diliniation and the teats are blown. Keep her milked out as much as possible and keep her udder moisturized really well. She also might do well with a bra.
Sometimes really heavy milkers that are not milked properly or allowed to over udder can have this happen.

KrisD · #7 02/14/13, 11:27 PM

Caliann and I were typing the same thing at the same time!

JustinRobinsREO · #8 02/14/13, 11:42 PM

Thank you for the education. She is a sweet girl and I just had to bring her home. I will get her on a 2x a day milking schedule. I gave her a good rub down with neosporin this evening. It is all I had, but I will go get the proper stuff for her in the morning. What would you suggest using?

Also is it okay to drink the milk or should I just give it to the pigs?

CaliannG · #9 02/14/13, 11:53 PM

~ponders~ An overblown udder will nt, in and of itself, cause the milk to be undrinkable.

However, does with overblown udders are more prone to mastitis. If the milk tastes nasty/salty, give it to the pigs and treat her for mastitis.

KrisD · #10 02/14/13, 11:55 PM

I use Coconut oil but I've used olive oil, baby oil, regular lotion, what ever I had on hand. Keep her soft and supple. Personally would either milk several times a day or optimally dry her off while I fix that udder.

KrisD · #11 02/14/13, 11:57 PM

I should clarify that it will never be "fixed" but it can be improved.

JustinRobinsREO · #12 02/14/13, 11:59 PM

The milk tastes fine. I can dry her off. Not big deal. Thank you again for all the advise!

ani's ark · #13 02/15/13, 01:02 AM

I gasped at those pictures (although Caliann's Thistle was a LOT worse). Good on you for taking her in, I can tell she'll get the care she deserves.
I dont know much about it, but I've seen a couple of goats with udders like that - ignorant owners - and its so sad. I hope she gives you years of twin doelings and lots of milk in return for your kindness.

Alice In TX/MO · #14 02/15/13, 01:41 AM

Not Neosporin. The petroleum base is a bad idea on udders. Use an udder balm or coconut oil as mentioned above. A MINIMUM amount. You don't want goop holding bacteria against her udder with a film keeping oxygen out.

CaliannG · #15 02/15/13, 01:46 AM

Depends upon if the bacteria is aerobic or anaerobic, Alice. Most bacteria that are out in the open anyway and can get on an udder are aerobic, which means an oxygen barrier would suffocate them if the antibiotic part didn't kill them off.

Neosporin may be an oxygen barrier, but it is still antibiotic, which means it kills bacteria...so even if some anaerobic bacteria got mixed it, they would still die, and the barrier keeps the rest out.

Rockytopsis · #16 02/15/13, 06:40 AM

I learned something today. Thanks
Nancy

Hollowdweller · #17 02/15/13, 10:16 AM

First is that a nubian?

Second, the teats are less than ideal but I think the udder is poorly attached more than the teats.

Teats too big of course and lack delination but her medial looks ok.

I am going to be the odd man out here and say I don't think she has an overblown udder. She just has big teats.

I had a doe once that while her overall attachment was better than that doe she had big teats also. And she also had one daughter that had teats like that. Both were big milkers but they were both milked twice a day and on time. Udder was never overbagged it was just she came from a line of goats with big teats like that.

I personally find goats with teats like that easier to milk than ones with small teats.

I have a goat right now with teats very similar to that size. She was never blown out. Plus she appraised 89 with a V in udder and a 40 in rear udder height. The delineation is better in the doe I have but some goats just have big teats.

JustinRobinsREO · #18 02/15/13, 10:23 AM

The guy said she was a Nubian Sanneen mix. Sorry I have alpines and just wrote alpine for who knows what reason. The guy never milked her ever. She was just a breeder for rodeo goats.

Hollowdweller · #19 02/15/13, 10:24 AM

This is the doe my does with the big teats traced back to.

GCH *M Lake Country Sno Surprise.

She has big teats but milked numerous over 4000 lb lactations, appraised 88 and was a permanent champion.

She had at least 2 bucks that were on the USDA Sire Summary.

TroutRiver · #20 02/15/13, 10:51 AM

A while back a friend of mine was in a car accident, broke her leg badly and long story short I ended up taking all of her goats to my place while she was recovering (and eventually sold them all for her). She had 1 doe whose udder looked like this. Very heavy producer but I was always worried about udder injuries with her. She did tend to have scrapes and scratches on her teats often, and I had to be very careful to keep them clean and use lots of udder cream. She sold pretty cheap and the buyer was aware of the problem (she was dry when she sold)