Dog Attack

emanuelcs34 · #1 11/15/12, 11:01 AM

I found my boys had been attacked this morning....Little Cliff is gone, the other 3 are tore up and in shock.

I gave them all shots of pennicillan, and am shaving areas and cleaning up where I can. Small amounts of time because they are all shaky and weak.

Is it ok to give banamine while they are in shock or should I wait?

finnsheep · #2 11/15/12, 11:20 AM

I know that banamine is sometimes used to help treat shock.

You may want to get a vet to look at them, especially if they need sutures.

They may need a much stronger antibiotic as well. But I think you're on the right track.

I am so sorry.

It's a terrible thing to have happen and I wish you and your goaties the best.

Sherry in Iowa · #3 11/15/12, 11:25 AM

Oh my gosh ..I am so sorry this happened. I think I would call a vet if I could. Puncture wounds are harder to deal with I think.

emanuelcs34 · #4 11/15/12, 11:27 AM

I have talked to the vet, at this point there isn't much he can do that I can't.... I am cleaning and shaving them but they are so in shock that they can't stand for long. so I am giving them rest in between. I have them covered with warm blankets and they are in the stall with a heat lamp.
I don't think they need stitches, but there is alot I can't see yet.
What would the dosage be for goats that are about 60 lbs?
Is there anything else I am not thinking of?

I will be giving them vit. B next.

Thanks, I am a mess after finding my baby....

finnsheep · #5 11/15/12, 11:32 AM

Injectable banamine dose for goats is 1 mL (cc) per 100 lbs.

So I'd give them each about .6 mL IM.

Electrolytes will be helpful if you can get them to drink. And I'd provide decent hay- nothing too rich.

emanuelcs34 · #6 11/15/12, 11:38 AM

ok thanks, they are eating and I am taking out some warm water. Got to get them cleaned up and take some pics for the animal control and sheriff.

Donna1982 · #7 11/15/12, 11:42 AM

We always rubbed whiskey on anything that was going into shock. It always seemed to work well. I am so sorry you have to go through this. This is one of my worst nightmares.

Minelson · #8 11/15/12, 12:14 PM

This is so terrible and I'm so very sorry

Poor little Cliff

It sounds like you are doing everything possible for them. (((((hugs))))) I wish I could come help you!

emanuelcs34 · #9 11/15/12, 12:25 PM

From what I can tell, and from knowing my boys so well. I am sure that they were snuck up on while sleeping.
They were so protective of little cliff. he got him and pulled him out of their shed. old cody has bite marks on his back legs and his head is bloody like he was head butting something.
One has his neck all tore up, just looks raw. The other has marks all over and won't put weight on his legs.
I am just a mess I love my boys.....The only ones that can eat together

Dog Attack - Goats

and my baby cliff....wasn't he handsome.
Dog Attack - Goats

Cygnet · #10 11/15/12, 12:27 PM

I lost six goats to a dog pack several years ago -- it is the most awful feeling to step outside and see the carnage. The survivors were all torn up and traumatized. I'm so sorry this happened to you.

For what it's worth, even gruesome skin lacerations will heal really quick and with few scars, in most cases. Crush injuries to muscles and tendons take longer.

Once they're over the shock, I'd soak any wounds with warm water with betadine and epsom salts, then cold hose or ice any injuries if the goats will let you do so without freaking and your weather will permit it or you have a heated barn or garage you could treat them in. (Don't give them hypothermia!)

where I want to · #11 11/15/12, 12:27 PM

I hope they all recover for you- you are so doing what they need. I'm sorry for your loss.

Minelson · #12 11/15/12, 12:29 PM

Those pictures made me cry.

Do you know what dogs got them? I'm sure you are a mess. I just can't even imagine. Just sickening

iloveafarmer · #13 11/15/12, 12:31 PM

I'm so sorry! That's one of my biggest nightmares. Poor guys and poor you.

emanuelcs34 · #14 11/15/12, 12:35 PM

Thanks, they are in the barn with a heat lamp going at the moment and I took blankets straight out of the dryer and covered them. Plus lots of fresh straw so they stay out of the dirt....
They are eating at the moment and drinking warm water...
I know it will get worse as they stiffen up.

We didn't hear a thing last night...
The does are scared and won't leave the barn....this is breaking my heart.

I do have chlorhexidine, would that work as a wash with warm water?

Minelson · #15 11/15/12, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emanuelcs34

I do have chlorhexidine, would that work as a wash with warm water?

Yes! That is what we use at the vet clinic to clean up wounds like this. Dilute it to a very light blue with water. Use a needless syringe and stick it right in any holes to flush out. I would flush the punctures as good as you can every day for a few days. It's good if the flush goes in one hole and out a different one.

emanuelcs34 · #16 11/15/12, 12:43 PM

Ok thank you...
We know what dog did it...he has been here before and they said they were getting rid of him....but he is still there.
the animal control and sheriff were here and wants me to document with pics and once we know if they will make it they will turn it in and take it to court....In the mean time they have been given notice....everyone will be locked up at night so they stay safe until this is over.

CaliannG · #17 11/15/12, 01:09 PM

Nothing more to add, as Min knows wounds better than I do and she gives the best advice on them. Just wanted to send hugs and my sympathy to you and your poor goaties.

Shayanna · #18 11/15/12, 01:14 PM

Are your goats up to date on their tetanus vaccines? Idk if it is the same thing with goats, but I know with humans, if you are bitten by a dog, they ask if you are up to date and if not, they give you the vaccine then and there.

houndlover · #19 11/15/12, 01:25 PM

Loose dogs are the worst. There was a message on my yahoo goat list this morning, a pack of pit bulls killed a woman's LGD, which sounded like a big lovable guy too. People who let dogs loose are so... well, fill in with words we can't use on HST. I'm so sorry for your loss, and for the shock of having to deal with it. I had to deal with a dog getting my lambs over and over one year, it was as if the dog owner had more rights than me. Now my goats and sheep are locked up in what I call "the stockade" at night. Can't even let my own animals graze at will on my own property.

Cygnet · #20 11/15/12, 02:38 PM

Minelson, out of curiosity, do you add epsom salts to your chlorhexedine soaks?

Re: tetanus -- tetanus antitoxin wouldn't be a bad idea even if they've been vaccinated, particularly if there are deep puncture wounds or crush injuries.