Help for UC?

Ford Zoo · #1 10/20/12, 12:58 PM

I'm talking to a young friend in Mississippi via Facebook, she has a young kid (I'm not sure of the age or size yet) showing signs of UC and no vet open today. I gave her the AC recipe and a trusted onion recipe to try. There is no flow. She got his wee to come partially out, the pizzle was still partially adhered and purple, along with the head of the wee being purple. She cut off what she could of the pizzle. I'm still waiting to hear more.

If worse comes to worse, can she needle aspirate the bladder thru the abdominal wall? I've seen this done with humans, and I'm thinking it may be her last resort. Where on the goat would be the best place? Or is there another option?

Thanks!!!

Tallabred · #2 10/20/12, 01:17 PM

I was told to give my 4 month old buckling 10000mg of vitamin C for 3 days straight. It dislodged the stone and he survived. This worked where the AC did not on my 1st buckling with UC problems.

If he eats vitamin C chewables it is easy.

Ford Zoo · #3 10/20/12, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Tallabred

I was told to give my 4 month old buckling 10000mg of vitamin C for 3 days straight. It dislodged the stone and he survived. This worked where the AC did not on my 1st buckling with UC problems.

If he eats vitamin C chewables it is easy.

Is that really 10,000mg daily?

Ford Zoo · #4 10/20/12, 01:57 PM

She decided to put him down, he was in such misery... But if anyone still has ideas for future reference...

Ford Zoo · #5 10/20/12, 02:01 PM

Oh, and she wrote that after looking at pics online, the penis didn't look like a goat penis at all...Has anyone else seen this? She said in hindsight she thinks this has been going on longer than just today and that he went into so much distress she thinks his bladder ruptured.

Minelson · #6 10/20/12, 05:32 PM

Oh shoot

I'm sorry she lost him. I'm not familiar with goat penises to comment on what it should look like. How did it not look like one?

One thing that any one with male goats should have on hand is Ammonium Chloride. It's easy to get on line but hard to find locally...so you need to have it on hand. Soooo many times on this forum we have had a UC condition and the owner was frantically searching for AC.
Fias Co Farm- Urinary Calculi "Stones" in Goats
My boys both get a dosage ball daily with AC in it for prevention.

Backfourty,MI. · #7 10/20/12, 06:19 PM

I had a buck get UC once & took him right to the vet to have the pizzle cut off. Gave him high doses of AC daily for a couple weeks until his system was flushed out & free of stones.
Then so much AC daily after that. I got him through it but he had a relapse about 2 years later that I couldn't get him through & we had to put him down.
It was heartbreaking to say the least.

I think at that time our water softner was broken & I didn't realize it & we have a lot of iron in our water that can contribute to UC also. Have never had a problem since but I check our softner almost daily now.

My bucks & wethers get so much AC daily now no matter what.

Ford Zoo · #8 10/24/12, 03:12 PM

Not sure what the penis looked like, but found out she was letting him pig out on the chicken feed not knowing he shouldn't. I'm thinking that was toooo high in calcium.

A freind that raises 180 dairy goats said if he was still in pain, the bladder probably hadn't ruptured yet and she may have still had time to disolve the stone. I don't have the heart to tell her this, but it's something to consider for future reference.

Backfourty,MI. · #9 10/24/12, 04:17 PM

Our old vet who treated our buck at the time said that usually their heart will give out before their bladder ruptures. Not sure since it never got that far thank goodness but he's been a large animal vet for over 40 years although he doesn't see a lot of goats.

Sherry in Iowa · #10 10/25/12, 07:35 AM

Sorry about your buck. We had a whether, Red, that got it. Totally could not pee. Went to the vet..he was gone but an OLD vet was there. Gave me DLMethionine and told me to get it in him and saturate his penis area with cider vinegar. Also, if I remember correctly we got some cider vinegar down him orally too. It is a urine acidifier (DlMethionine).

Man..it worked and it worked fast. He started dribbling about 15 min. after we gave it to him. We kept messaging him and then he peed..and peed..and peed.

I remember when we did this..several years ago..I posted it on here. Don't think back then too many were excited about it..but we were..and so was Red. I would not use anything else now.