Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!!

GBov · #1 08/13/12, 02:54 PM

For telling me what to do if my buck got out of hand!

I went into his pen and he leaped up onto his hind legs, bent his head tward me and stepped tward me in that bowing motion that proceeds BASHING something and at that point he realized he had made a MEGA mistake as I LEAPED at him, grabbed his shoulder and far leg and dropped his sorry backside on the ground and sat on him!

Boy, was he surprised!

Have had to do it once more but after that, he comes up for scratches but isnt pushing at me and is respecting my space.

Yeh, I'm bad

CJBegins · #2 08/13/12, 03:05 PM

Isn't is great the information you get here. My buck got the same treatment. That dummy took 3 times to figure it out. What a wrestling match, I kinda surprised myself after it was over. He is very respectful now.

These folks are great!

Rockytopsis · #3 08/13/12, 03:07 PM

Good Job. Still keep a eye out though.

Nancy

GoldenWood Farm · #4 08/13/12, 03:23 PM

They are awesome on here

. CaliannG helped me with one of my 2yr old bucks when I was ready to send him down the road. But she helped me figure out WHY he was doing the behavior I didn't like, now I am able to work with him and he has gotten much for friendly and easy to deal with.

I love these guys!

Justine

farmmom · #5 08/13/12, 03:44 PM

I had to do this as well to a buck I used to have. He was fine with me afterward, but would still try to bully my teenage son. I then found a really nice, well mannered buck ,and sold the other.

Zilli · #6 08/13/12, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by GBov

For telling me what to do if my buck got out of hand!

I went into his pen and he leaped up onto his hind legs, bent his head tward me and stepped tward me in that bowing motion that proceeds BASHING something and at that point he realized he had made a MEGA mistake as I LEAPED at him, grabbed his shoulder and far leg and dropped his sorry backside on the ground and sat on him!

Good job. Hopefully he's a fast learner and won't need a reminder.

I'll bet you needed a shower after that up close and personal confrontation! LOL

Cyngbaeld · #7 08/13/12, 04:01 PM

I had a lovely buck till he climbed the fence and came after me. Not wrestling any bucks and don't recommend it! 22lr works great though. Mean can get passed down to offspring. I don't put up with mean.

GBov · #8 08/13/12, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Cyngbaeld

I had a lovely buck till he climbed the fence and came after me. Not wrestling any bucks and don't recommend it! 22lr works great though. Mean can get passed down to offspring. I don't put up with mean.

He didnt seem to be being mean, it was more like he was glad to see me and thought he would say so in buck goat fashion. His expression when I came at him was priceless. A case of OMG what have I DONE???

And the second time he was just bumping my leg as I walked along but he was not respecting my space so down he went again.

Mean gets no second chance at my place either but stupid gets a few chances.

GBov · #9 08/13/12, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Zilli

Good job. Hopefully he's a fast learner and won't need a reminder.

I'll bet you needed a shower after that up close and personal confrontation! LOL

I may be just strange but he doesnt smell bad to me. My mum says he stinks to high heaven but to me he just smells like a stall that needs a freshen up, more a barnyardy smell.

But he is a Nigerian Dwarf so they arnt supposed to smell as bad as other bucks.

The Tin Mom · #10 08/13/12, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Zilli

Good job. Hopefully he's a fast learner and won't need a reminder.

I'll bet you needed a shower after that up close and personal confrontation! LOL

Zilli · #11 08/13/12, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by GBov

But he is a Nigerian Dwarf so they arnt supposed to smell as bad as other bucks.

I don't know about that.......

I had a pygmy buck at the same time that I had a Saanen buck and that little pygmy buck waaaaay out stunk that big Saanen.

LOL

It always kind of amazed me that something so little could smell so bad.

shelrox · #12 08/14/12, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Zilli

I don't know about that.......

I had a pygmy buck at the same time that I had a Saanen buck and that little pygmy buck waaaaay out stunk that big Saanen.

LOL

It always kind of amazed me that something so little could smell so bad.

I say this all the time about my pygmy buck, he stinks! We even have to lyme his paddock come this time of year for the deer does cross through the back of the property and he goes into a rut , doesnt help that the girls are due to kid soon as well. HE is so mixed up with all the smells he stands there peeing on himself to scent his lovely hairy legs and goatee! YUCK!

Zilli · #13 08/14/12, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by shelrox

I say this all the time about my pygmy buck, he stinks! We even have to lyme his paddock come this time of year for the deer does cross through the back of the property and he goes into a rut , doesnt help that the girls are due to kid soon as well. HE is so mixed up with all the smells he stands there peeing on himself to scent his lovely hairy legs and goatee! YUCK!

Nasty little things, aren't they? LOL

Copperhead · #14 08/15/12, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by GBov

I may be just strange but he doesnt smell bad to me. My mum says he stinks to high heaven but to me he just smells like a stall that needs a freshen up, more a barnyardy smell.

But he is a Nigerian Dwarf so they arnt supposed to smell as bad as other bucks.

Nigerian Dwarf . . . and here I was imagining you tackling my 150lb Kiko

lol

GBov · #15 08/15/12, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Copperhead

Nigerian Dwarf . . . and here I was imagining you tackling my 150lb Kiko

lol

We went with Nigerians for that very reason, I knew a full sized buck would be well past my ability to manage.

And so far so good, he is minding his maners and still isnt stinky. Well, to me at least.

I told my kids to tell me if he so much as looks sideways at them and I would drop him and THEY could sit on him.

They thought that was very funny!

Shayanna · #16 08/17/12, 09:34 AM

I don't know if we did it the right way, but we have an alpine/saanen doe with a BIG attitude. A step down from our buck, she thought she was queen bee and she has horns. There was one time where she thought she was going to come after us and for such a little thing she has power. So we butted her right back. Held out a fist and let her hit her horns against that real hard. Looking back, it really hurt our hands and probably could have broke some bones, but she got over it. This same doe had a problem with our other does (who don't have horns) and was just getting malicious about it. Ramming their sides and everything and we didn't want any potential mothers to miscarry. So Barley, the alpine/saanen, was put in isolation for a week. During the day she was allowed to pasture with her companions, but at night she had to sleep alone in the other shed. She cried the first couple nights, but after a week she was the sweetest thing.

gracie88 · #17 08/18/12, 12:35 PM

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. Held out a fist and let her hit her horns against that real hard.

Owwwww.

GBov · #18 08/20/12, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Cyngbaeld

I had a lovely buck till he climbed the fence and came after me. Not wrestling any bucks and don't recommend it! 22lr works great though. Mean can get passed down to offspring. I don't put up with mean.

How did he taste? Had to drop my stupid boy AGAIN today! He hadnt seen me for seven days and he was fine when I fed the two bucks and went past them to do the egg search but when I came round the shed again and into his view he stood up and came at me.

And he fought harder going down today too. Was quite a struggle winning this time so I think, as we have both does bred to him, its time for him to go.

I think he just forgot that I am the boss but nah, I dont need an animal I cant trust.

Shall give him a couple of weeks on CL but after that, we might just eat him.

Backfourty,MI. · #19 08/20/12, 04:19 PM

We had 1 Nigerian buck that it didn't matter how many times I put him on the ground & sat on him or sprayed him with water it still never worked. He continually got worse until he caught me 1 day in the thigh & gave me a big lump & big bruise.

He went to the butcher after that but I just had it all ground up for dog food. I know a lot of folks don't say the buck meat has the bucky taste but I thought it did even after cooking a package. Dogs didn't seem to mind though.

Copperhead · #20 08/21/12, 12:05 PM

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. Held out a fist and let her hit her horns against that real hard.

Yeah, about that. I figure that if I'm going to use and abuse my fist, I'm going to aim for the head part between the eyes. Not only is it more padded, but it gives a better surface and better stun . . . but keep reading!

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Originally Posted by GBov

How did he taste? Had to drop my stupid boy AGAIN today! He hadnt seen me for seven days and he was fine when I fed the two bucks and went past them to do the egg search but when I came round the shed again and into his view he stood up and came at me.

And he fought harder going down today too. Was quite a struggle winning this time so I think, as we have both does bred to him, its time for him to go.

I think he just forgot that I am the boss but nah, I dont need an animal I cant trust.

Shall give him a couple of weeks on CL but after that, we might just eat him.

As I told GBov before, I have a 150+ lb Kiko that 2-3 years old and thinks he's a lapdog. He has no concept of danger or personal space. Are those enough danger signals? He butted me hard once on the thigh. I returned to the house and got a fiberglass axe handle. I returned to his pen and waited. Sure enough, he thought about repeating the dominance process and subdueing me, so I laid into him as hard as I could with the axe handle across his HORNS! He tripped overhimself getting away from me as fast as I could

Now since that date, I learned how to feed the goats their grain or alfalfa pellets & BOSS through the electric fence, so I'm never in the pen with a bucket of grain in my hand. Goats are just too greedy about that kinda of food. We screwed a rubber tub to an 8ft 2x4 that we fill and push through the fence. We call it a "Lollipop" and it Works Great! For the next month, anytime I was in the buck lot, I carried the axe handle. I did give him one more gentle warning tap, but he has never butted me or my 13 year old boy again.

Today, I can walk out in my 20+ acre pasture and he'll come walking up to visit. I'll let him sniff me, and I rub his smelly head and we'll walk together a ways. There's no hard feelings on either side, just respect. But to be safe, if I have my 4 yo daughter or 5 yo son with me at the pasture, I take a 30 ft rope, slip it over his head after our sniff/pat routine, and tie him to a fence post. I still don't trust him with little ones.

P.S. Goat taste great! Think of it as a cross between Venison and Lean Beef and cook appropriately (in the oven!)