Goat in the garden

kandmcockrell · #1 05/28/12, 11:57 AM

Do you think if i sprayed wolf urine around the perimeter of my garden, it would keep the goats out?
I know you can use it as a deer deterrent so i am hoping it would work for the goats as well.

Pony · #2 05/28/12, 12:18 PM

I don't know, but it's an interesting question.

My first thought is, "Nah. Nuthin' throws those goofy goats off their trail once they've discovered Noms of the Garden."

But it may work.. I'm interested in others' experience with this.

Minelson · #3 05/28/12, 12:19 PM

I don't think it will work but you can certainly try it!

KrisD · #4 05/28/12, 12:35 PM

Hahahaha! Oh you are serious. It won't keep them out of my garden, maybe you have good goats but a fence hot word and a sprinkler won't stop mine. Good luck.

wolffeathers · #5 05/28/12, 01:41 PM

I would be extremely surprised if it worked.

May be a silly question, but how much does wolf urine costs(if you don't have a wolf handy). You would have to reapply it regularly and it could change the pH of the soil. I imagine over time the goats would become accustomed to it and simply ignore it. It most likely works as a deer deterrent because deer know what wolves are and what they smell like.

A fence would be more reliable in the end(maybe even cheaper if you have to continually buy and reapply urine and maybe even have to counteract the effect on the pH).

kandmcockrell · #6 05/28/12, 01:57 PM

Just grasping at straws.

What about a spray made up of hot peppers? I know that work on rabbits and deer.

Minelson · #7 05/28/12, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by kandmcockrell

Just grasping at straws.

What about a spray made up of hot peppers? I know that work on rabbits and deer.

Nope...that doesn't work. This I know

silverseeds · #8 05/28/12, 02:31 PM

Id think wolf urine smell lot like dog urine to them. both of which have been domesticated together over 1000s of years. Perhaps if your buying it a different predators urine might be more appropriate?

andabigmac · #9 05/28/12, 03:31 PM

Have you seen the fence in "Jurassic Park"? That might work. My goats would look puzzled at the urine smell for a moment and when nothing came after a minute to drag them into the woods they would go for the snack bar you so lovingly planted for them.

dlskidmore · #10 05/28/12, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by silverseeds

Id think wolf urine smell lot like dog urine to them. both of which have been domesticated together over 1000s of years. Perhaps if your buying it a different predators urine might be more appropriate?

Even with deer you have to rotate in different predator urines. Eventually they realize that they never see a wolf where it smells like wolf.

Steph in MT · #11 05/28/12, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by andabigmac

Have you seen the fence in "Jurassic Park"? That might work.

Okay I just snorted wine out my nose....

Steph in MT · #12 05/28/12, 05:44 PM

We're actually in the planning stages of our hopefully goat-proof garden for next year. Figure we'll use 6 ft wood posts and 6 ft horse fence with chicken wire around the bottom 3 ft to discourage the cottontails. We'll probably stake the fencing to the ground too as I've seen goats shape-shift into pancakes and squeeze under fences you'd never think possible.

KrisD · #13 05/28/12, 05:46 PM

My neighbor bought a paintball gun to keep my goats out of his garden. I came home to orange goats and he still has no garden. We had to improve the fence again. No we are laying invisible fence too so I have a triple barrier. Mine wouldn't even stop to smell the wolf urine they would just keep eating.

KrisD · #14 05/28/12, 05:47 PM

Oh any mine ate my cayenne peppers last year- all of it and they loved it! The plant would have to literally be on fire to make them stop and think before they just dove in.

wolffeathers · #15 05/28/12, 05:53 PM

We have a 3 board wooden fence with cattle fencing(field fencing?) tacked to it. The girls don't mess with it, but we don't plant anything too temptingly close to the fence they could reach their head through to sample.

sunshinytraci · #16 05/28/12, 06:03 PM

You'll definately want a fence much more sturdy than urine.

I have seen some of my goats walk through electrified wires. All they did was twitch a little when the shock hit them. Didn't much seem to mind electrocution if they though there was goodies on the other side.

Now I use 5 foot heavy duty chain link or welded wire goat fence stretched tight on very sturdy posts set pretty deep in the ground. Occasionally they find a way under that when the wire gets a bit loose.

I also stay home alot of the time so I am nearby when chaos starts to break loose. That way they can't do too much damage.

Pony · #17 05/28/12, 06:29 PM

Our garden is located far away from our fenced-in goats. The goats have about 14 acres to themselves. They can leave the rest to us.

Backfourty,MI. · #18 05/28/12, 09:32 PM

Our Garden is fenced in, otherwise I don't think I'd get any vegatables because the goats would have already eaten all my plants!

I don't think the wolf urine will work but you never know. I use PLANTSKYDD on my fruit tree's, ornamentals & things I don't want the deer to eat but if the goats get in those areas it doesn't bother them & they'll eat them anyways!

pudgypete · #19 05/28/12, 10:23 PM

Not sure about wolf urine.My flower bed, garden and goat pen are fenced and they still manag to out of theirs and int the others. They especially love the wifes roses. The best cure I've found is the wife with a water hose. lol

Shygal · #20 05/28/12, 10:46 PM

If I had a moat filled WITH wolves, they would still go in there