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03/16/12, 02:20 PM
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Milk replacer debate
I've read on this forum differing views about milk replacer. What is the consensus? Is whole cows milk from the store best? Milk replacer? Is the whole cows milk high enough in fat?
I know goats milk is best  But I currently don't have goat milk for my bottle babies. They are doing great on save a kid milk replacer. Just wondering. On the plus side cows milk is cheaper now.
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03/16/12, 02:49 PM
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I'm on the whole cow milk side. I saw the improvement in a kid and a lamb that I took in a few years ago in an emergency when I took them OFF replacer. When they went back, the owners put the lamb back on replacer, and it died.
I have NEVER seen a complaint here of failure-to-thrive with whole cow milk.
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03/16/12, 05:39 PM
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Vit D cows milk from store brought. It is much better than milk replacer.
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03/16/12, 05:49 PM
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Whole cows milk.
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03/16/12, 06:04 PM
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I agree, real milk is what babies are made to eat. Milk is a unique substance, trying to copy it will never give you the same thing. It has to make a curd to digest properly. There are some that say they are successful with the milk replacer (and there are some that contain milk products so would probably be more usable). It can probably be done but it has to be done just so, and I haven't ever seen it. Do they *really* get that long bone and excellent growth you get from real milk? I would have to see their stock. For every person who says they have success, there are about 20 others who have dead kids.
I, honestly, don't even like feeding pastuerized milk to my kids. I like raw milk, if you don't have safe raw goat milk, then raw cow's milk is great too.
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03/16/12, 06:26 PM
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Whole milk here too, replacer has become so expensive I don't see the need for its use at all now.
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03/16/12, 08:08 PM
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I plan on using a gallon of vit D milk minus 2.5 cups, add 1 cup buttermilk, and one 12 oz. Can of evaporated milk. I have read some good reviews about this.
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03/16/12, 09:27 PM
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Whole milk gets my vote 
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03/16/12, 10:19 PM
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Go with real milk. If you want more fat (as with feeding a lamb since ewe's milk is considerably higher in butterfat), add half & half.
I always used Claudia Gurn's (MAC Goats) formula: whole milk with two cups poured out of a gallon jug and replaced with half & half but since coming to this forum and seeing how many people use plain whole milk, that's what I'm using for Milo. He's doing just as well as the ones that I raised the other way.
I do add a heaping tablespoon of plain yogurt to one bottle every day...
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03/16/12, 10:34 PM
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Whole milk. When we got our two bottle babies they were on replacer and they scoured. Switched them to whole milk(on the advice of members of this board) and the scours went away.
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03/16/12, 10:45 PM
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If I needed to feed bottle babies I would use Whole Cows milk from the store also.
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03/17/12, 07:19 AM
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I have never heard anything good about using replacer
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03/17/12, 11:09 AM
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I'm definitely on the side of whole raw milk. Not only is it better, but it is cheaper by far as well.
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03/17/12, 12:53 PM
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I am using whole vit D milk from store for 1 kid am using 1 gallon every 2 days. Her poo looks great, she is very active and alert.
Now what is the added yogurt do? Will it keep her feeling full longer?
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03/17/12, 01:25 PM
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I bought some bottle fed kids this spring and I slowly eased them off the kid replacer and on to whole cow's milk. They had runny poo when I brought them home, even though they had been nibbling on hay and were getting grain. In addition to changing to whole cow's milk I gave them meat goat pellets and a medicated pellet to prevent Cocci. I noticed an almost immediate change in the poo as well as a dramatic weight gain and more energy.
Cow's milk gets my vote!
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03/17/12, 02:44 PM
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Whole milk.
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03/17/12, 04:00 PM
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NOTHing but real milk here!
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03/17/12, 04:03 PM
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Doesn't seem like much of a debate!
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03/17/12, 05:20 PM
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Whole milk. I usually add a little half and half to it as well, just to increase the content a little bit after comparing the nutritional content of goats and cows milk.
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03/17/12, 05:56 PM
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Many times if you use the replacer, you will spend more on it than the animal is really worth
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