dog attack... :(

Steph in MT · #1 03/08/12, 07:37 PM

Horrible week... the new adopted dog has ripped the chain link from the bottom rail of their kennel two days in a row and has gone on a killing spree. I've lost five of my nine sweet pygmy goats and have a seriously injured pregnant pygmy a ewe sheep, and a big Nubian wether. All are receiving pennicillin injections twice a day. I was prepared to take the dog back to the rescue across the Canadian border but the decision was mutually reached that he is not adoptable. I will be taking Bruce to cross the bridge tomorrow.
My question and concern is about my pregnant goats after all of this trauma, especially the one that is injured. He had her by the throat and she still seems to be in shock. She is eating and drinking and stands on her own, but prefers to lie down. Today she does seem a little bit better. The goats two that weren't injured were chased around.
The girls are due to deliver early April and I worry what effect this trauma will have on their pregnancies and if there is anything I can/should do or watch out for.
Thank you in advance for any advice.
Steph

Backfourty,MI. · #2 03/08/12, 07:53 PM

First thing I'd shoot the dog! The antibiotics are a must for the one's with injuries because dog bites can become infected easily I think.
I would probly give them all Probios daily for a few days & Vitamin B complex also.
Not sure what else to do for them at this point other than what your doing & keep a good eye on them.

You & your goats will be in my thoughts Steph. Hope they all do well & deliver healthy babies.

Oat Bucket Farm · #3 03/08/12, 07:57 PM

I'm so sorry. I saw this on FB. I can't imagine how hard this must be for you.

Dreamgoat Annie · #4 03/08/12, 08:04 PM

How absolutely awful. The stuff of nightmares. I can't start to imagine how traumatic this has been for you and for your surviving goats. {{{hugs}}}

Sue

Minelson · #5 03/08/12, 08:09 PM

Bckfourty gave you great advice. Dog bites are nasty and they need antibiotics. Watch for abcesses

I am sorry this happened...I wish I lived close to you so I could help you. It sounds just horrible

I'm sorry Bruce is a lost cause...that must weigh heavy on your heart..and injured goats to boot. Just so much to handle. I am sending you lots of healing vibes along with strength to get through this!

noeskimo · #6 03/08/12, 08:30 PM

So sorry that your lovely goats are gone, and prayers for the remaining goats.

Steph in MT · #7 03/08/12, 08:42 PM

Thank you everyone for the compassion. I've tried to be strong and hold it all together but now I'm bawling my eyes out from all of your kind words.
The dog is just a dog and I can't hate him or hold him to human standards. I will hold him and cry for him as he passes tomorrow just as I cry for my sweet goats.
Will my goats just miscarry if this trauma has been too much for them or is there danger of the babies dying and not coming out? What, if anything, should I watch for?

Minelson · #8 03/08/12, 08:47 PM

Watch for "normal"...eating., drinking, pooping , peeing. Keep things as calm as possible. Lots of TLC. I guess since they have been traumatized it might wake up a worm load so watch for signs of that. Take a deep breath and tell them that everything is ok now and they are safe. Eee-gads this is making me cry!! I'm so sorry. It will be ok though...try to take one step at a time and be sure to remember to take care of yourself with food and rest. (((((((((((((hugs!!!))))))))))))))))

Ford Zoo · #9 03/08/12, 08:53 PM

So sorry you had to go thru this. I can't imagine...

thaiblue12 · #10 03/08/12, 08:54 PM

I would ask your vet if you can safely use Banamine on her. It is an anti-inflammatory as well as pain killer. She may become stiff and sore, have bruising or swelling even if the dog did not break the skin.
If you cannot get your vet to give you Banamine or it's similar then you can use Midol. I really think I read it on here that it contains the same type of meds.

If the ones that were chased were not harmed by the dog then they should be for the most part in the clear. Had it been a hot day they could have died, but if they are not suffering any effects from being chased soon after I would hope they are fine.

As far as the other, I would check for sign of miscarrying, keep her wounds clean, anti-biotic, and hopefully some painkiller. If the kids suffered some trauma and are not miscarried you probably will not know it until they are born if some are stillborn. If they do not miscarry at all and have died then you would notice your does not getting any larger and if the due date comes and goes you would have to be certain they are stillborn and that the due date is correct, then you would have to Lute them to get them to deliver. But hopefully they are alive and well in there. Does can take a pretty good hit to the gut while pregnant and while running for your life is not fun, it may not harm their kids.

Since he may be part wolf your choice to remove him is best, it is instinct for him to hunt and he would be better off elsewhere or put down. Sorry you had to go through the loss of your goats and your new dog

I hope your other goats get better soon and have healthy kids.

nehimama · #11 03/08/12, 09:13 PM

I'm so sorry about your troubles, and I hope your girls do well.

Steph in MT · #12 03/08/12, 09:14 PM

Thank you for the advice. There are no good goat vets here unfortunately. He did break the skin on her neck and she bled quite a bit the first day. She is able to eat and drink, although not as enthusiastically as normal. I have seen her poop and pee. The other non-injured goats are behaving and eating normally.
I don't blame the dog's actions on being potentially part wolf- he's a rescue, so I won't ever know- his previous owner told the rescue he was a purebred malamute... My first wolfdog Luna (my souldog and my avatar pic) was the "protector of the underdog", be it a cat, or a newborn chick. My wolfdog Bear who I adopted Bruce as a companion for, is equally sweet and loves all other critters. It was his barking that alerted me to Bruce attacking the first goat that survived. All the others died while I was at work. Bear has some cuts on his face and I suspect he got them trying to protect the goats.

mpete · #13 03/09/12, 12:18 AM

I had a doe that was attacked by dogs. The dogs were shot and she appeared to be **OK** that day but into the evening I thought she was going into labor. But she did not miscarry~~~that day.... She carried her kids to term (about a month later) and had dead kids.... We had to do uterine flushes and strong antibiotics to keep her alive. She has settled since then and is actually due again here in a couple of weeks...
The vet thinks the stress of the attack caused the death... so unfortunately, you can follow the advice given here and get your goats through "the initial trauma" and you could have wonderful babies to help you through this torment, or you may only have more heartache to deal with.

I am sorry you are going through this... It breaks my heart knowing that we try to help others and even though they are just doing what is 'natural' to them, they have come into our home and caused such horror... I will be crying with you .... :*(

TheDoubleD · #14 03/09/12, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Steph in MT

Horrible week... the new adopted dog has ripped the chain link from the bottom rail of their kennel two days in a row and has gone on a killing spree. I've lost five of my nine sweet pygmy goats and have a seriously injured pregnant pygmy a ewe sheep, and a big Nubian wether. All are receiving pennicillin injections twice a day. I was prepared to take the dog back to the rescue across the Canadian border but the decision was mutually reached that he is not adoptable. I will be taking Bruce to cross the bridge tomorrow.
My question and concern is about my pregnant goats after all of this trauma, especially the one that is injured. He had her by the throat and she still seems to be in shock. She is eating and drinking and stands on her own, but prefers to lie down. Today she does seem a little bit better. The goats two that weren't injured were chased around.
The girls are due to deliver early April and I worry what effect this trauma will have on their pregnancies and if there is anything I can/should do or watch out for.
Thank you in advance for any advice.
Steph

If I am I not mistaken this new adopted animal is a wolf hybrid?

You take it in, put it in close contact with prey and it acts out like a wolf and now it must pay with its life?

I'm no wolf lover, but I don't like to see the unnecessary slaughter of any animal' goats or wolves., Especially when the entire avoidable situation was created by an intelligent human being.

Such a shame.

Where is the humane society when you need them.

nehimama · #15 03/09/12, 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoubleD

If I am I not mistaken this new adopted animal is a wolf hybrid?

You take it in, put it in close contact with prey and it acts out like a wolf and now it must pay with its life?

I'm no wolf lover, but I don't like to see the unnecessary slaughter of any animal' goats or wolves., Especially when the entire avoidable situation was created by an intelligent human being.

Such a shame.

Where is the humane society when you need them.

Good Grief! She's suffering a major heartbreak, comes here, TO HER FRIENDS, for advice & solace, and this IS HOW YOU SPEAK TO HER?!?! Please, just go away!

Kwings · #16 03/09/12, 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoubleD

If I am I not mistaken this new adopted animal is a wolf hybrid?

You take it in, put it in close contact with prey and it acts out like a wolf and now it must pay with its life?

I'm no wolf lover, but I don't like to see the unnecessary slaughter of any animal' goats or wolves., Especially when the entire avoidable situation was created by an intelligent human being.

Such a shame.

Where is the humane society when you need them.

From what I've read the OP is well aware of the tendency's of wolf hybrids. Considering that if you actually read all her posts she tells us that she's owned them before and tells us about them.

I would do the same thing in her shoes. That dog is most likely a problem waiting to happen for anybody. If she were to give it back to the rescue and they adopted the dog to someone else who lived out in the country how long until the dog gets loose and kills someone else's live stock? If they adopt it to someone who lives closer to people how long until this dog gets loose and mauls a neighbors toddler. Prey drive is prey drive, usually if it runs around and makes noise its prey. I don't know how this dog is around kids personally but i wouldn't trust it around small children with their tendency to run around and make lots of noises.

Its best that the dog goes peacefully now instead of it being jostled around from house to house in and out of shelters and with the possibility of ending up in the hands of someone who would abuse it. He's in a good home right now, and he will be spared the trauma of being left unwanted somewhere in a shelter for the rest of his life.

He can't help what he is, personally i don't think wolf hybrids should exist because most of them end up like this guy. Its sad yes, but the OP doesn't need your criticism, she needs support. Your post is unhelpful and will only serve to make the OP feel even worse then she already does. Its snarky posts like yours that make me consider leaving this forum from time to time.

Personally i don't take anything seriously from anyone on any forum who has such low post numbers, stick around awhile, get to know us and what were about here and then you can form an opinion on things. Not just post bleeding heart crap like you just did. You can't fix everything, the dog could be a danger to its self and other animals and the OP is doing the right thing and is trying to fix the horrible things that have happened.

Now for the OP. I hope your doe heals up quickly and i'm sorry this horrible thing has happened. I can't imagine having to go through all that you have in such a short amount of time. I'm sorry that this post is so long and ranty but TheDoubleD's post ticked me off. He has no right to judge you when your already doing all you can in your situation and doing the right thing in my opinion. I'll probably get flamed for this post but i don't really care.

Hopefully with the due date being so soon the baby will be fine, and your doe too. Keep us updated.

Suzyq2u · #17 03/09/12, 06:18 AM

Oh I'm sorry

How awful.

Backfourty,MI. · #18 03/09/12, 06:25 AM

Sorry Steph first thing I said I'd do was shoot the dog, but I guess that was my first instinct when reading this & probly would have been my first instinct had the dog been here.
We love animals too & don't kill anything domesticated or wild just to kill them. I'm very sorry your going through this. It has got to be very heartbreaking & tramatic for you to do what is needed for the safety of your remaining goats.

I am pulling for all your goats & sending Hugs. Again I am so sorry!

Shygal · #19 03/09/12, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by nehimama

Good Grief! She's suffering a major heartbreak, comes here, TO HER FRIENDS, for advice & solace, and this IS HOW YOU SPEAK TO HER?!?! Please, just go away!

It seems to be his MO here, this isnt the first rude remark Ive seen.

DamnearaFarm · #20 03/09/12, 07:59 AM

Ditto, Kwings.

I'm so sorry Steph.

<<<hugs>>>