UMMM Something Happened Not sure how

vpierce · #1 02/21/12, 09:43 AM

So Problem, I put my Buckling in with My two girls. He breed them both on February 11, 2012. It looked like it anyway. Both girls looked like they had fluid coming from them like the stuff from the boy. One girl is a hermaphrodite, cant get pregnant. The Other is not, April can get pregnant. Anyway, I marked it in my calender. Last week I put her on the stand to trim her feet and notice she has a small Utter. "What, how is that possible??" Than I notice her belly moving"OK I must be going crazy" I put my hands on her and sure enough I feel a baby. Well, how is that possible when Excalibur has been separated the hole time??? He never got out, he knows where the hot wire is. Only been hit once with it. Well last night I noticed April was thin, quiet, walks very slowly,and vulva LONG and FLAT. Holy crap is it possible that she is going to kid out?? How in the world did her get to her??? I will post pictures of her later. Boy is she nasty. Her attitude is so different than before. Last night she got out of her pen and was up in the hay barn on the very top. Pawing at the hay. She would put her butt straight up into the air,get up stretch way out stomp her feet and than like jerk her body. Very different than what Sandi did. She does have this smell that Sandi had just before she had her kids. I don't know if she is going to be like her mother. Missy showed NOTHING and had kids wile we were at work that day and it was 7 days early. This was going to be a planned breeding or so I thought it was. I figured at 10 months and well over a 100 lbs would be alright. I was excited to finally have them together. I was not expecting kids so soon from April.
I just thought I would rant a little. Thanks for listening.

Alice In TX/MO · #2 02/21/12, 09:47 AM

Udder. Udder. UDDER. Sorry, I just can't help it.

There are some VERY confusing things in your post. You bred them a couple of weeks ago?

How old is your buck?

Donna1982 · #3 02/21/12, 10:21 AM

What side did you see "babies" move? You can see the stomach roll from what I have been told. Was she born at your place? If not could she have been bred at another farm? How close is your buck when they we not together?

madness · #4 02/21/12, 10:27 AM

I was thinking the same as Donna. I've felt some serious tummy rumblings from non-pregnant does before. While milking, I rest my head on their sides and I swear I've been kicked by their rumen!

vpierce · #5 02/21/12, 10:52 AM

April was born here. I felt the movement right in front of her UDDER and on the right side. Same spot that I felt on Sandi's belly.

My Buckling is separated in the next field with a fence and hot wire on BOTH sides. His and hers.

Here is a picture of Excalibur on his side. You can see the hot wire on BOTH sides. Silver on girl's side, White on his side.
UMMM Something Happened Not sure how - Goats

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UMMM Something Happened Not sure how - Goats

Goat Servant · #6 02/21/12, 11:16 AM

One day the fence got turned off. Or you had a power outage.

TRAILRIDER · #7 02/21/12, 11:26 AM

Oh such a pretty boy! And just look at that smug look on his face : )

vpierce · #8 02/21/12, 12:46 PM

Well, maybe I need to put a chastity belt on the girls. I am trying to remember what happened in September.

Donna1982 · #9 02/21/12, 01:02 PM

According to the semen collector at a buck show we were at you should never put the boys and girls that close together. At least not a common fence together. He said semen can fly and they can be bred that way. We hear all the time about flying sperm do not know how much truth is in it though.

RedSonja · #10 02/21/12, 02:10 PM

I don't get within ten feet of my buck when he's ummm, cleaning himself because otherwise I'm gonna smell like buck spray for days. So I suppose it's possible that you're a victim of flying sperm if they have a common fence.

-Sonja

CaliannG · #11 02/21/12, 06:06 PM

It's MAGICAL flying sperm, ladies.

Being magical, that's how it sometimes manages to get clear to the other side of the barn! And yes, if she is developing udder now, that means she should be about 15 weeks along.

If she is a big girl, as you mentioned well over 100lbs, she should be alright. I would watch her closely though.

vpierce · #12 02/21/12, 09:40 PM

I went back and looked at the calender to see when anything happened. The only thing I have is April got in with the buck(didn't right that down) I went to the vet told him what happened he said wait 11 days and than give her this Lut. shot. I did and she came back into heat and has had a heat ever since. Like I said she looked like she was bred on Feb. 11. I wrote that date down. She had white goop coming from her. I put them together Feb. 1.

So anyway, her left side lig. is gone. I can stick my finger pretty far into her body, the right side I can stick my finger in a little ways but not as far.

CarolT · #13 02/21/12, 10:00 PM

Sounds like the lute didn't work. It looked like she came back into heat, but either it's false pregnancy or you're going to have one earlier than you planned. Good news, it's my understanding it shouldn't hurt the baby, if it doesn't abort, it won't be deformed or anything from it.

CaliannG · #14 02/21/12, 10:09 PM

Ask poor thaiblue about "lute babies".

At any rate, either false pregnancy or real pregnancy. Watch for other signs of labor (pawing, nesting, hips spread, udder fills TIGHT, like shiny-skin tight, grunting, panting a lot, amber colored goo coming out of her hoo-haa, hooves coming out of her hoo-haa...the regular) and keep an eye on her.

Donna1982 · #15 02/21/12, 10:32 PM

Could the white goo you seen when you bred her on the 11th actually been her plug?

vpierce · #16 02/21/12, 10:45 PM

So I am going threw Sandi's pictures and the days I took the pictures. Like on day 148 Sandi wasn't as long at what April is. April is long and flat and EXTREMELY SWOLLEN. She has been pawing the ground. Today she was trying to lay down and she gets half way than back up again. She also looks posty in the legs. She has been rubbing her sides,biting her sides. When she does finally lay down she keeps her butt up into the air for a few seconds than lays down and than butt into air again.

I have know Idea if it was her plug. All I know is it was white goop for a couple of days. there's Nothing right now.

CaliannG · #17 02/21/12, 10:49 PM

Up and down, up and down. No ligs. Wow, it sounds like my entire day! Then, ofcourse, I got kids sometime after 3.

Yeah, you are officially on kid watch. Got a kidding stall and a baby monitor to put in your kidding stall?

CaliannG · #18 02/21/12, 10:54 PM

Of course, your most comfortable alternative is a lounge chair, a sleeping bag, and a thermos of hot chocolate. Just bunk down with the goat. You'll get more sleep that way.

(Otherwise, you are up, getting dressed, going o the barn, finding nothing goingon, going back to bed, getting undressed, repeat.)

vpierce · #19 02/21/12, 10:56 PM

I have a kidding stall ready, but the baby monitor wont reach the house. Too far away.

Do they act like their mothers the first time?? April's mom showed absolutely NOTHING. She was her normal LOUD MOUTH pain in the rear. She didn't have an udder,no goop. Nothing. Than she had April and Isis wile we were at work. Found both girls out of the field near the garden screaming, all dried off. Seven days early.

vpierce · #20 02/21/12, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by CaliannG

Of course, your most comfortable alternative is a lounge chair, a sleeping bag, and a thermos of hot chocolate. Just bunk down with the goat. You'll get more sleep that way.

(Otherwise, you are up, getting dressed, going o the barn, finding nothing goingon, going back to bed, getting undressed, repeat.)

Yeah another Sandi.