Sterilizing Needles

thaiblue12 · #1 01/20/12, 09:15 PM

One feed store hardly ever has the size I want, they always tell me they are not the ones who order it or they sold out fast. The other feed store only sells singles for .40 each.

I dislike the ones I got from Jeffers, they do not open well or attach all that great.

These are the ones I use Sub-Q, they are 1/2 an inch and 20 gauge and I like that size and this way I never poke throught the other side especially on the babies.

So I am considering soaking them in alcohol for a while, then boiling them. Will this work or is it a bad idea?

Alice In TX/MO · #2 01/20/12, 09:39 PM

Order from Amazon.com

Pony · #3 01/20/12, 10:04 PM

You can, indeed, soak them in alcohol, but they do get nearly microscopic burrs that make skin penetration difficult for you, painful for the goat.

We get our needles from Orscheln. 1/2" 20g, in a package of 20.

where I want to · #4 01/20/12, 11:13 PM

I have both the luer lock and slip on in the size you mentioned from Jeffers. The leur lock screws on and won't come off in normal circumstances. I like that one as I am not fast enough if there is a problem.

Pony · #5 01/21/12, 02:07 AM

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I have both the luer lock and slip on in the size you mentioned from Jeffers. The leur lock screws on and won't come off in normal circumstances. I like that one as I am not fast enough if there is a problem.

The syringes with the eccentric hub really help, too.

SpiderLegs · #6 01/21/12, 06:32 AM

Jeffers sells lots of different needles. Most places you buy needles from are just repackaged jeffers stock. I'm assuming since you are considering boiling that the entire needle is metal? The plastic will not hold up very long in boiling water time after time. Also you need to consider that the needle needs to be cleaned inside somehow so that different meds do not interact. And as it has been mentioned, since they are single use, they dull very quickly and will be painful with each additional use if not sharpened.

http://www.jefferslivestock.com/prod...11559&cn=31070
http://www.jefferslivestock.com/prod...29535&cn=31070
http://www.jefferslivestock.com/prod...11556&cn=31070

We use the ones in the second link mostly, but have used them all without a problem using LL

Charleen · #7 01/21/12, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Pony

You can, indeed, soak them in alcohol, but they do get nearly microscopic burrs that make skin penetration difficult for you, painful for the goat.

Yes, it's not just a question of sterility, but the needles get dull.

Minelson · #8 01/21/12, 08:03 AM

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Yes, it's not just a question of sterility, but the needles get dull.

Yes this...They get dull very quickly. Just drawing from the bottle that one time dulls them. If I have to draw meds/vx more than 2 times I change the needle b4 injecting into the critter because the needle is to dull.

**mygoat** · #9 01/21/12, 08:06 AM

I only have trouble with luer slip needles when I'm injecting a REALLY thick med. Then I use leur lock and no problems.

I've been using/ordering jeffers needles for the entire duration of owning goats. They work fine. I just get the disposable cheapo syringes/needles.

Chaty · #10 01/21/12, 08:58 AM

I agree its not the needle but the syringes that you are probably using. I dont reuse my needles and have bought from Jeffers for years with no problems with my needles. Yes burrs cant be seen but they do make it hurt worse and I use that same type needle and buying by the 100's is cheaper and I love them. I am not taking the chance when it comes to my livestock of transmitting anything or reusing needles. JMO

thaiblue12 · #11 01/21/12, 11:09 AM

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I agree its not the needle but the syringes that you are probably using. I dont reuse my needles and have bought from Jeffers for years with no problems with my needles. Yes burrs cant be seen but they do make it hurt worse and I use that same type needle and buying by the 100's is cheaper and I love them. I am not taking the chance when it comes to my livestock of transmitting anything or reusing needles. JMO

What is the problem with the syringes? My questions was is sterlizing and boiling them a good or bad thing. Since it seems to have a problem with burs and dullness then I have no intention or doing it, that is why I asked.
I have no issues getting the needle onto the syringe with the Jeffers needles, I dislike their packaging, getting to the actual needle and trying to open it while keeping it sterlie. Once I finally get to the needle, pry open and all the parts I get it on just fine and it stays there. The other part of my problem is finding them locally, I never said I had an issue with getting it onto the syringe, them falling off or anything like that.

What is the point of a dull needle? I keep seeing them on Amazon. I sure do not want those.

Pony I did not find 1/2 inch on the site you mentioned only 1 inch, I tried a few different key words and no luck, what do you use to find them?

**mygoat** · #12 01/21/12, 11:15 AM

Huh. I just pop the hub through the packaging and the syringe end out of the packaging, slip it on. Takes like half a second, no contamination.

thaiblue12 · #13 01/21/12, 11:24 AM

The Jeffers ones I bought, let's see if I can explain it well.... needle, cover, then plastic cover over the needle cover, purple cover over the bottom, wrapped in paper around where the two ends meet. Getting the paper part open should have been a simple twist but it was not it almost seemed cover in plastic then when I opened it with some violence at times the inner parts would fly out here and there, then I had an issue separating the inner cover from the needle it did not want to twist off. It was on the syringe just fine but getting to the actual needle was a pest. I am not sure I am explaining it very well but needless to say there packaging annoyed me and I do not want to buy them from there again. Maybe it was that particular brand but since they came in a plastic baggie there was no brand name on them.

where I want to · #14 01/21/12, 12:22 PM

The vet complained about individually packaged needles and syringes so they must buy them somewhere without the wrappings. The ones they have given me though have a cap over both ends of the needle which I find more easy to drop than the paper wrapped ones.
There is a little area at the top of both needles and syringes from Jeffers that are not sealed so that they can be grabbed and pulled apart like a bag of chips. A bit of a pain but not too hard once you get used to them.

**mygoat** · #15 01/21/12, 12:26 PM

I don't think you're ordering the same ones I get from jeffers. I get the cheapo jeffers poly hub needles. They are a poly hub with NO hub guard like you see on some. Just a needle guard.

The packaging is plastic on one side, paper on the other. I don't peel open the package, just pop the hub through the paper and slip onto a syringe.

I order the actual JEFFERS brand by the box. They have other 'name' brands which are slighly more and often have hub covers or other unneccessary packaging.