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01/18/12, 04:41 PM
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Thoughts on spotted doe.
My mother has become obsessed with goats,she wants to buy some spotted Boers to have over here while she is living with us(she lives in Australia but plans to spend six months here to escape the summers there)
We found some not too far away and went and took a look.
Thing is,while my mother likes the color,this goat is quite small and probably only weighs 70-80 pounds and is almost a year old.
What do y'all think of her?
I know the pics aren't very good,but she was quite flighty as well.
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01/18/12, 04:50 PM
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First thing I thought was she was small. Is she tested and from a clean herd?
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01/18/12, 04:54 PM
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First thing I thought was she was small. Is she tested and from a clean herd?
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Well...so far we have not found a breeder who tests beforehand,some are willing to test and if positive refund your deposit.
This seller is willing to have her tested (at our cost naturally).
She and the other two colored does are from a good breeder located in SC,this person bought them at a sale the breeder put on.
Spotted seem to be the new big thing,we personally like traditional but this is for my mother.
The two other colored does(red and the black) are even older,15 months.
All seem small.
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01/18/12, 06:15 PM
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You built a milk stand so go buy spotted Nubians  lol
Chances are higher that you will find tested dairy goats. Flighty and on the small side is not something I would buy.
She is cute with all those spots but they may be stunted from Cocci, or just run on the small side, who knows.
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01/18/12, 06:21 PM
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You built a milk stand so go buy spotted Nubians lol |
LOL...well Mrs oz applied for a position at the ADGA so who knows... 
We mentioned that to my mother but she wants Boers like we have already,just 'polka spotted' as she call them...
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Chances are higher that you will find tested dairy goats. Flighty and on the small side is not something I would buy.
She is cute with all those spots but they may be stunted from Cocci, or just run on the small side, who knows.
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The method of feeding probably doesn't help,a couple of troughs and the big does push the smaller ones out of the way.
And another spotted Boer breeder did say they can run to the small side sometimes.
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01/18/12, 06:35 PM
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But Boer do not jump on trampolines and are not as awesome as Nubians
Nibbles spots are more pronounced then in this picture plus she weighs about 185 now.
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01/18/12, 06:37 PM
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Nubians were our second choice,I like them but most seem to have no horns,I like horns on a goat.
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01/18/12, 06:43 PM
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You could probably find and contact a local nubian breeder and specifically request them to not disbud. It means that you'll have to buy babies, but you'll have your horned spotted goats.
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01/18/12, 06:59 PM
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I suggest spotted nubians too. 70-80 pounds seems awfully small for a boer doe that's almost a year old. I have a spotted mini nubian(her mother is pure nubian-father was mini nubian) & I bet she weighs over that & will be a year old this june. She has spots but not for sale.
I don't disbud my goats either. I like them with horns & you might be able to find nubians with horns if you look around a little or like wolffeathers suggested-contact a breeder, put a deposit down to insure they they don't disbud them.
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01/18/12, 07:07 PM
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Dont listen to them Oz!! Stick with the Boers!!!
My first (and biggest) concern with her being so small is her ability to carry twins+
You breed her with a standard male Boer and it could very well be devastating, if not lethal, to her and the babies.
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01/18/12, 07:23 PM
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I have two Boer doelings. Missy the mean one tried to kill one of them so we bottle fed her. Both girls will be a year old in April. Now Isis(bottle baby) Only weighs 75lbs April was raised on the mother who weighs 110 lbs. So maybe this little girl was a bottle baby. That's just my thinking.
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01/18/12, 07:26 PM
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Dont listen to them Oz!! Stick with the Boers!!!
My first (and biggest) concern with her being so small is her ability to carry twins+
You breed her with a standard male Boer and it could very well be devastating, if not lethal, to her and the babies.
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Our thoughts too,she doesn't look that small until she was next to one of the traditional does.
In the end,it is my mothers choice,we suggested she keep looking.
The Buck we are hoping to get is quite a good size considering he is less than a year old.
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01/18/12, 07:27 PM
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I have two Boer doelings. Missy the mean one tried to kill one of them so we bottle fed her. Both girls will be a year old in April. Now Isis(bottle baby) Only weighs 75lbs April was raised on the mother who weighs 110 lbs. So maybe this little girl was a bottle baby. That's just my thinking.
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The seller said he bought her and the others at three months old,I just think they didn't get enough feed early on.
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01/18/12, 07:31 PM
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My thoughts: Sorry, but your mom is only going to be here for 6 months. Get something that you want, unless you plan on selling it when she leaves.
As for my thoughts on the doe? For being a year... leave it. Spots or no. UNLESS SHE WILL BE A PET. I have tried to take small ones and they only end up costing more money down the road that you do not get back. If you are going for Boer, then start out with good quality. That doe has an ok body, but she does not have good size bone, and something about her rear I just don't like...
You also need to test before you bring anything home...
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01/18/12, 07:37 PM
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My thoughts: Sorry, but your mom is only going to be here for 6 months. Get something that you want, unless you plan on selling it when she leaves.
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No,these will be her goats,she plans to be here six months and Australia six months,we would be looking after them anyway,she IS 72 years old...LOL.
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As for my thoughts on the doe? For being a year... leave it. Spots or no. UNLESS SHE WILL BE A PET. I have tried to take small ones and they only end up costing more money down the road that you do not get back.
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Our initial thoughts too...we already have our pet Boer doe,she is WAY small,had cocci as well as worms,plus wasn't cared for well...so she will be our pet.
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If you are going for Boer, then start out with good quality. That doe has an ok body, but she does not have good size bone, and something about her rear I just don't like...
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Okay,will pass this along to my mother.
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YES!!!
EVERYTHING that comes on this farm will be tested prior to arriving.
I don't CARE that most Boer breeders don't seem to test,I am the buyer and it is what I want.
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01/18/12, 11:14 PM
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Good for you! Some people will snub their noses when you ask for testing, but if I offer to pay for the boarding fee, then waiting a week for the results is more than worth it. If you can find someone who can help you get a "hands on" with good and bad traits of a Boer, that would be helpful to you in choosing your breeding stock... yes, I have pets, but my investments are all of good stock and bloodlines. You can look at pictures and get a good idea, but a hands on for me was the best. Especially when you can feel a good trait against a bad trait. Also, if you plan to show... 2013 is bringing new rules for ABGA ... make sure your show stock still will qualify...
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01/18/12, 11:32 PM
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Why not just AI several does to a spotted boer buck? I am tentatively thinking of using CIDRs and doing some mass AI'ing next year. It'll be my first experiences AI'ing so I'm hoping I can find someone experienced with doing so/pay them to do it at first, lol.
http://www.biogenicsltd.com/boer.html
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01/18/12, 11:34 PM
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Also, if you plan to show... 2013 is bringing new rules for ABGA ... make sure your show stock still will qualify...
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Really?? Hmmm I need to pay more attention.
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01/18/12, 11:52 PM
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This is the buck we are thinking to buy.
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01/19/12, 05:03 AM
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Those are some nice looking boers, I would have been interested in them back in the day. I dont see any red flags with either of them.
Some boers dont mature by the age of one, but Im almost willing to be no real coccidia prevention has been done on them
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