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01/10/12, 09:03 PM
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BIG lesson learned...oopsadaisy
Ok, late last September or early last October (note to self-record UNIMPORTANT stuff on the calendar too), I had to move goats and pens, etc. to get ready for winter. Our boer herd is sometimes housed with our dairy girls and they had spent the summer together. Well, in moving the boer buck from one side of all the pens to the other, he ended up with the big herd for about 20 minutes while we rearranged, etc. I had everybody bred except for two 8 month old nubians. I DID notice shenanigans between EVERYBODY, with girls acting bucky as a form of trying to be dominant, etc. SOOOO...just to be safe, I gave both nubian doelings a dose of lutalyse that afternoon. I THOUGHT that was the correct protocol...I didn't even bother to look it up....I THOUGHT I knew that was the thing to do. Well....we've got possibly poochy udders beginning on the two of them. I think we may have Boobian on board. I'm not thrilled but both girls are big enough to carry pregnancies and I'll be able to evaluate first freshening udders. I'm praying for bucks...meat on the table. We'll ultrasound at the vets for our next 4H meeting, so I'll know for sure in February, but I am thinkin they are. So, next time I wait 10 days and then give the lutalyse, right?
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01/10/12, 09:09 PM
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I do believe it's 10 days. Dang! Sneaky buck(s). Only 20 minutes? For what it's worth, I do record switching goats between pens - for whatever reason.
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01/10/12, 09:13 PM
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Yep, I should have recorded it. I REMEMBER the day. I REMEMBER giving the shot as I always make a big deal of it and make my 12-year old daughter stand outside the barn while I give it. I looked back in my calendar and wrote NOTHING. I'm going to look in one other place where I think I wrote vaccination info and hope its there. At least that way I'll know what breeding date. Don't know why I wouldn't write down the shot of lutalyse...sheesh. Being 47 stinks.
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Wild Iris Farm
"Fair"- the other 4 letter F word." This epiphany came after almost 10 days straight at our county fair.
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01/10/12, 09:15 PM
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20 minutes is a LONG time for a buck to work, only takes about 10 seconds.
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01/10/12, 10:08 PM
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I just don't understand why you're not pleased - one of the most ideal meat crosses for either you or if you need to market 50% kids for sale, you get more kids, you get more milk, and your 8 month old does who were more than ready to be bred are being productive and contributing instead of sitting around doing nothing.
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01/10/12, 10:27 PM
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This is a good reason to come on the forums here and post about every little thing you do with your animals.
You can use it as a diary and search back through your own posts to get these important dates. 
I have done that more often then I care to admit. LOL
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01/10/12, 10:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FrogTacos
20 minutes is a LONG time for a buck to work, only takes about 10 seconds.
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Hehehe!
Joan I write down everything. Problem is, did I write it on calender or in barn records? And sometimes they conflict. Especially since at times I cant even read my own writing.
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01/10/12, 11:14 PM
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Man. And our gal was with the buck at former owners for 30 days and didn't take! Makes me wonder.
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01/10/12, 11:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LFRJ
Man. And our gal was with the buck at former owners for 30 days and didn't take! Makes me wonder.
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Oh goodness, I read that all wrong.
For some reason my tired brain read this  :
Man. And our gal was with the buck's former owners for 30 days and didn't take! Makes me wonder.
I thought, well I would wonder too!
Note to self: stop reading forum when your brain has already gone to bed.
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01/11/12, 05:29 AM
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My vet had me give it at four days and then again seven days later, in other words four and eleven.
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01/11/12, 06:31 AM
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I have 2 Boobian does that are excellent milkers! I sell their doelings as 3/4 Nubian dairy bottle babies. Their bucklings are destined for freezer camp.
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01/11/12, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Jcran
I'm praying for bucks...meat on the table.
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You can eat the girls too. I would sell them, but I'm sure they are just as tasty as the boys.
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01/11/12, 09:37 AM
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LOL never heard of boobians although I have seen some nubian/boar crosses Ive never heard them called that........
I have a doe who is in heat at the drop of a dime. If she's got access to the buck she starts showing him her rear end. Can does be in heat perpetually? I have to wonder cause she always seems ready to go or maybe shes just a tease. I have them fenced next door to each other and have heard of a magician buck on here who bred a doe through the fence, cant remember whose it was on here but that seemed an especially impressive feat to me. The drive to reproduce is just amazing.
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01/11/12, 10:04 AM
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We had a similar situation. DH was enlarger our bachelors quarters and one of our bucks managed to get out and into the girls area. We had already bred one of our does, but was planning on spacing out their breeding. Now all 3 does are pregnant. At least they're all ND's. Hope we get more does.
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01/11/12, 10:34 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NataliaTwoDoes
LOL never heard of boobians although I have seen some nubian/boar crosses Ive never heard them called that........
I have a doe who is in heat at the drop of a dime. If she's got access to the buck she starts showing him her rear end. Can does be in heat perpetually? I have to wonder cause she always seems ready to go or maybe shes just a tease. I have them fenced next door to each other and have heard of a magician buck on here who bred a doe through the fence, cant remember whose it was on here but that seemed an especially impressive feat to me. The drive to reproduce is just amazing.
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Last year one of my does went into heat every 10 days. Probably messed up hormones, she finally settled on the 3rd breeding.
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"Breed the best, eat the rest"
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01/11/12, 12:12 PM
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I have a doe that was supposedly bred through the fence at 4 months old. No idea why but they didn't abort her - she ended up having twins, rejecting one. She is due here at the end of the month - if she doesn't take care of ALL of her babies, she will be culled.
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