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Old 10/24/11, 01:00 PM
 
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Question Snot?

I have a LaMancha doe with snot pouring out her nose. I have not checked her temperature yet, but I was hoping someone could give me an idea as to what may be wrong with her.

I also have an Alpine buck who is acting "depressed" and doesn't seem interested in the girls at all. So, I decided to worm him this morning, hoping that would solve the problem. Does anyone have any other suggestions?

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Old 10/24/11, 01:20 PM
 
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Its not uncommon for a goat to have allergies. If it's clear - clearish, and she does not have a temp, its probably something like that... take her temp.

As for the buck, acting "depressed" does not necessarily warrant worming them. You should do a fecal first. Does he have a temp? Any changes in feed? Is he urinating? Does he strain when he urinates? Is he just tired from breeding? What color are his eye membranes? Does he have normal poo?
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Old 10/24/11, 02:05 PM
 
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It is raining right now, but when it stops, I will take their temps.

We just purchased the buck a few weeks ago, so we have changed his food. He hasn't bred any of my does. Last time I seen him urinate it was normal. He appears to have diarrhea today.
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Old 10/24/11, 02:08 PM
 
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How old is the buck?
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Old 10/24/11, 02:13 PM
 
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He is around 7 months old
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Old 10/24/11, 02:52 PM
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I just recently had a nice run in with puemonia.

One of my doelings who went down the worst had snot (progressed into wheezing, rattling in her chest) but NEVER ran a fever. The other two doelings did run a temp, but for some reason the one doe did not, and she got so bad I thought I would loose her.

I gave Benadryl to help dry up some if it, Bo-Se & Vitamin C to boost the immune system & once I realized what I was dealing with, I started them all on Biomycin & Banamine. By day 3 all showed great improvement, but I continued the antibiotics for an additional 4 days...

Some of my older does got the snot too, but it never progressed past that so I just gave them the benadryl, 1 Bo-Se shot & the vitamin C.
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Old 10/24/11, 03:52 PM
 
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Mycoplasma pneumonia will cause those symptoms. It will cause snotty noses, and it will also cause depression.
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Old 10/24/11, 03:56 PM
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Mycoplasma pneumonia will cause those symptoms. It will cause snotty noses, and it will also cause depression.
Can you recommend a remedy for the Mycoplasma pneumonia?
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Old 10/24/11, 04:21 PM
 
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Nuflor is probably the best antibiotic available to treat it.
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Old 10/24/11, 07:11 PM
 
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What mpete said. Fever or yellow snot I'd give antibiotics.

I'm a huge advocate of Nuflor for pneumonia. But recently my vet wanted to test one of my does for mycoplasma, so I asked about it. A fellow HT'er had it go through their herd, LA200 treated it just fine. They did lose several animals though before they realized what it was. Very sad.

Another thought for the buck is shipping fever. Does his purchase date & shipping fever match up? Symptoms show at just over a week to 10 days or so.

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Old 10/24/11, 11:57 PM
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Slightly off topic- But anyone know why my doe had all typical symptoms but no fever? Heck, none of them had really yellow snot.....Snot was more cloudy, but LOTS of it.

The doe with no fever could barely breath.......sounded like lungs full of water, off feed, depressed, wheezing/gurgling..... I even bought a new thermometer as I thought mine might be broken, but never once ran a temp.......The other two doelings had the same symptoms but both of them had fever.

Really threw me for a loop to say the least.....Thankfully I pulled them through, but there was a couple days with the feverless doe that I was just positive I'd come out & find her dead...
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Old 10/25/11, 02:34 PM
 
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Mycoplasma pneumonia is not always accompanied by fever.
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I lost a doe who was fine one day, just nibbled at her feed the next morning, no fever, lungs sounded fine... until 2 hours before she died that night... Necropsy showed pneumonia.
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For pneumonia, I would not use anything but Nuflor. Yeah, it's expensive as heck, but if pneumonia hits, I will hit it back harder and knock it out of my herd.

We are very judicious in our use of antibiotics. LA200 is a good med for soft tissue, but pneumonia is a stone witch-with-a-B.
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Old 10/25/11, 06:40 PM
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For those of you who use Nuflor, how do you determine the correct dosage? Are there guidelines published anywhere? Thanks.
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I don't have anything else, so I am going to use Tylan 200...

I read that it needs to be injected into muscle, but it doesn't say where - I assume it means in the hindquarters?

I need an answer quickly, as I want to administer this as quickly as possible!
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I don't have anything else, so I am going to use Tylan 200...

I read that it needs to be injected into muscle, but it doesn't say where - I assume it means in the hindquarters?

I need an answer quickly, as I want to administer this as quickly as possible!
http://fiascofarm.com/goats/medications.htm

One ml/lb SQ once a day for 5 days; she notes that it can be very painful, so be ready with the raisins.
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For those of you who use Nuflor, how do you determine the correct dosage? Are there guidelines published anywhere? Thanks.
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I couldn't get Naxel or Nuflor which were my mentor's reccomendations (don't trust my vet) so I used Biomycin subq twice a day for 3 days, then continued 4 more days at once a day. Mentor told me to give banamine to all of them, even the one without fever to help with inflamation & to prevent scaring in the lungs. Plus the banamine helped them feel better & within 20 minutes of giving banamine & benadryl I was able to coax them to eat hay, whereas before I couldn't even tempt them to eat tree trimmings....

Oh on my doe without fever who went down hard, I took out my daughter's breathing machine & gave her breathing treatments (with Xopenex)......Was a pain holding her & keeping the breathing mask on her but I noticed a big difference afterwards....Should have seen hubby's face when he walked in the barn & saw me there with the breathing machine... lol
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Thanks for all the help!
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