Horse Mineral

GoldenSeal · #1 09/26/11, 09:07 PM

Anyone use it? Can I feed it to my Nubians? Here is a picture of the nutritional information. I cut off where it says " this feed contains added selenium at 15mg/kg" just because I wasn't sure how big everything was going to be in the picture.

Horse Mineral - Goats

Thanks!

houndlover · #2 09/27/11, 12:26 AM

I do. I use Equis Ultramin. My goats have never looked better. Been using it exclusively for 2 years.

http://www.equisfeed.com/downloads/Ultramin.pdf

Minelson · #3 09/27/11, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by houndlover

I do. I use Equis Ultramin. My goats have never looked better. Been using it exclusively for 2 years.

http://www.equisfeed.com/downloads/Ultramin.pdf

The 2000 ppm of copper is really good in this loose mineral....

Goldenseal, I don't understand the 700 mg/kg of copper in yours. I don't know how to compare ppm to mg/kg. I would be worried that is not enough copper.

Cannon_Farms · #4 09/27/11, 10:28 AM

Until you know your soil and hay mineral content you cant possibly know what you need in a mineral. What happens if you are in a high selenium or copper area and you use a mega copper selenium mineral and it actually becomes toxic to them. What works for me here in Ga wont work for some one in north Ga or Tenn so be careful in using what every one else does without doing a bit of research.
Im not a chemist either but some mineral are presented in a form that is unusable by the animal and some keep others from being absorbed.
Sorry that I cant give you a direct answer.

Cannon_Farms · #5 09/27/11, 10:37 AM

re-post Mineral Chart

link to previous thread, I know it doesnt do you a great deal of good considering your in Canada but if you look you can see where it varies greatly, I'm sure there is something like that for your area.

KOHL HAWKE · #6 09/27/11, 11:01 AM

I use a high end cattle mineral, it works on the horses too, same content/levels, more mag. I think. I would need to refer to label./ we are cooper deficent here so we have to give more suppliment than just loose mineral. we havent had any problems.

wmsff · #7 09/27/11, 11:09 AM

Does anyone here use Source Micronutrients for horse? I was just looking at their website and saw that the senior version lists the ingredients (1st three) as seaweed, flax and yeast. The protein is 16%, 220ppm iodine and 1,100 ppm copper. My area is low in copper.

As a side note I've spoken with several goat people and vets around this area and they all say "what?" when I ask about giving copper bolus or the need for supplemental copper.

I purchased the feed recommended by the guy I bought them from and it's supposed to be formulated for dairy goats and contains all the minerals they need. They both developed fish tails. I gave them the bolus - thanks Cannon farms.

Cannon_Farms · #8 09/27/11, 11:17 AM

Your welcome

Understand if you want to talk minerals find someone who is got a degree not farmer john as its a very difficult process to learn what keeps what from being absorbed and what helps and so on. If you have high iron in your water or soil it doesnt matter about how much copper is around. Ive been doing trials for a couple years now and find rotation of quality minerals seems to do the best here, I change them out so that what one is lacking, another may have and you can tell because they will go nuts over something for a week or so then at the end of that bag/block/tub they will go nuts over the previous or next depending on whats going on. Most of the season I have two different options for them presented.

KOHL HAWKE · #9 09/27/11, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon_Farms

Your welcome

Understand if you want to talk minerals find someone who is got a degree not farmer john as its a very difficult process to learn what keeps what from being absorbed and what helps and so on. If you have high iron in your water or soil it doesnt matter about how much copper is around. Ive been doing trials for a couple years now and find rotation of quality minerals seems to do the best here, I change them out so that what one is lacking, another may have and you can tell because they will go nuts over something for a week or so then at the end of that bag/block/tub they will go nuts over the previous or next depending on whats going on. Most of the season I have two different options for them presented.

dont underestimate farmer john, degrees dont equal knowledge, all the farmers i know are always looking for outlets to learn from, and they have experience too. running things by the numbers doesnt always work in these cases, also diffrent animals of the same breed and exact same feed dont always perform the same, feed/treat to the need, general info is general info

Cannon_Farms · #10 09/27/11, 12:35 PM

farmer john like myself can only see what works through much trial and error where some one who has a degree in chemistry can already know what goes with what if you want a correct answer and not just an opinion. Like a thread that was started not too long ago, I can see where injectable cydectin works better for everyone I know down here but dont have enough factful information to make a proper argument other than it seems to work better, would I expect anyone gamble and use it and tell them their are not any risk, no, its a personal choice and its one that requires more self education and research than a personal observation