Need some help before something bad happens

[mamato3]

So my neighbor raises boar and boar mixed goats. He is the reason i got into goats. Since my land consist of my front and back yard i got Nigerians and mixed Nigerians. Since then he has been buying bucks and penning them beside my yard. He has 4 now 1 is as big as a small cow he is huge wow. Anyway today he added his 4th and his big one is fence fighting my Nigerian boy. And they chose the one area that is weak. My main problem is im worried 1 of those big boys are going to bred my girls ether threw the fence or they will tear down the fence then kill my boy in the process. I cant put up a electrical because i have little kids. So is there anything i can do to strengthener the fence?? Guess i could do some bobed wire hate to see the kids get hurt but im kind of clueless as what to do. Since he has so much land i wish he would have been respectful and penned them behind his house. But its his land not mine. Every time i go out know all i smell is bucks yuck.

[mamato3]

I think i got an idea. I will go get pallets and wire them to the fence. Then fill in the holes with wood planks. And if i have to i will use some t post to re in force weak areas. He is a clean sort of guy so it might make him mad but atleast my goat will be safe.

[KrisD]

I have little ones and I still put up a hot wire. However I put up the dog kind not the horse kind. I hooked it up and turned it on for about 3 days and after the goats and the dogs got zapped they stay far way from it now. Now the hot wire is hooked up but turned off, if someone is a problem child I can plug it in and solve the problem quickly. I would tell him nicely what your concerns are and ask him if you can put the hot wire up temporarily on his side to teach his buck to back off a bit. If he says no then at least do your side. My hot wire is at the top of my fence so no one can jump up on it.

[farmmom]

Cattle panels aren't too expensive if you don't need many. They are tough! I doubt if they would break them down. As for breeding through the fence, can you double the fence in that one area with a space between fences? Goats can and will breed through fences, and unfortunately, the girls aren't particularly picky.

[Alice In TX/MO]

Yup, we had electric fence for the back yard dogs when my sons were young. They learn.

[Creamers]

Cattle panels - do a strand of High powered electric at the top - barbed wire would not help, really.

[dustin biery]

I say get hot wire. I dont think I would take a chance without it.

[Backfourty,MI.]

I would also ask the neihbor about a hot wire on his side of the fence to keep his bucks back. Be sure & tell him your concerns so he understands why. If he doesn't want to do that then I would put it up on my side of the fence.

If your worried about the electric on your side & your human kids, what about the wood fencing you buy in 8 foot sections, I think they are 6 foot high but not sure & lining that side of your goat area that's between you & the neighbors. T-Posts would be strong enough to hold it up & then no one could see each other to butt at the fence or breed your girls. Sorry it won't help the smell though.
If not pallets will also work the only thing I'd worry about is those full size bucks jumping that high. Most of my Nigies jump as high as the pallets here.

Hope you get it all figured out & the neighbor is helpful.

[houndlover]

They won't breed through the fence. People swear all the time that happens.. it doesn't. The cheapest way to go is to buy some cattle panels (not hog panels). They are 16' long and nothing is going to go through them. They cost $24 a piece at Coastal's (Big R) here. You can attach them to the fence you have with zip ties or put in a few metal posts. Pallets will work too, but that would be one ugly fence.

As for the smell, well, not much you can do about that. Bucks stink. You get used to it after awhile. At least you'll know when your girls are in season.

[CarolT]

Ask Cheryl how well fence and electric fence works on a determined buck... Mine was over at her place and went through/over all of it and her electric fence would knock a cow to it's knees! Hate to say it but I don't know if she can stop them

[motdaugrnds]

A large buck will also go thru cow panels. Ask me how I know! He simply continues to butt it until it gives as it is only "welded" together.

I would definately speak with the neighbor, though I'm pretty sure he knew exactly what he is doing. Apparently he doesn't want your goats there anymore than you want his bucks there! At least you give him an "opportunity" to compromise in such a way that both of you could be better satisfied.

If that didn't work and, as stated above, I doubt it will, I would probably do both, i.e. put up strands of barbed wire (so your neighbor will constantly be having to tend his goat's wounds) on "my" side of the boundary line AND put up fencing that would keep my little Nigerians away from the barbed wire. (Nothing illegal in putting up two fences when both are on your own property.) I think I might also contact the local officials before I do this and ask them for suggestions. This way if your neighbor gets too angry and contacts the officials, they will already know the situation "from your perspective".

[hiddensprings]

Absolutely speak with your neighbor first and express your concerns. He might not realize that his bucks are tearing the fence apart. I am sure he doesn't want his bucks out anymore then you do.

And, Houndlover, I 100% disagree on them not being able to breed through a fence. I had a lovely set of Nubian Angora cross doelings last summer. My Angora buck was never in the same pasture with my Nubian girls but was in an ajoining pasture. I don't breed for summer babies so my nubian and boer bucks were a considerable distance away from the girls because the boer would tear a fence down in a second. Anyways, they were adorable.....

[Alice In TX/MO]

They WILL absolutely without a doubt breed through the fence. I call it the Flying Sperm Syndrome, and we had it happen a couple of years ago. I had planned on milking two does through, but they and the buck managed to get together. The does were NEVER put in the buck pen or vise versa, and I never caught an escapee.

I no longer pasture them in adjacent pastures with just a cattle panel or net wire fence between.

[MatthewB]

Originally Posted by mamato3

I think i got an idea. I will go get pallets and wire them to the fence. Then fill in the holes with wood planks. And if i have to i will use some t post to re in force weak areas. He is a clean sort of guy so it might make him mad but atleast my goat will be safe.

It can be done. I built my entire chicken house/ goat shed/ barn (whatever you want to call it) out of free pallets I picked up from a couple places. The only cost was the screws. You can stack them two high if you want, just make sure you screw them together really well and stagger the seams so there are no weak spots. If you take your time it can actually look somewhat decent. I get nothing but compliments on my pallet creation, and everyone is always so surprised to learn what it's made of. It's very time-consuming, but I didn't buy wood to fill in the gaps. I just ripped down other pallets and used the slats from them. Get a sawzall, it will go much quicker. I wouldn't try using t-posts though, I'd put a 4x4 at least every other pallet to reinforce it.

[AshleyB]

I call it the Flying Sperm Syndrome

This phrase is going to be going through my head all weekend.

[mamato3]

LOL Flying sperm.
I cough him outside we talked he promised he would move them but could not do it tell later. We decided to put up a electric wire on his side. Bad thing is that new buck is crazy he is in rut bad. LOL He said he is going to try to sell him as he is to mean. Already tried to bred him so he carries a pipe with him wherever he goes lol. He might be the crazy one everyone talks about going threw electrical fences. So we will see how it goes. I think i might still put the pallets on this side just to keep my crazy kids from touching it as he said its a high voltage like you use on cattle.

[SilverVista]

I just want to say that I'm SO glad you spoke with him and you are both coming to a neighborly agreement. So often threads similar to yours wind up with either the poster or the neighbor behaving badly, and long-term ugly feelings in the neighborhood. It sounds as though he didn't realize that his bucks' attitudes and smell were causing you trouble. Hooray for happy endings!

[dustin biery]

I don't know what I would do without my neighbor, he is a God send! Glad you and your neighbor are communicating about the issue and sounds like things are looking up for your situation!

[The Tin Mom]

Originally Posted by Alice In TX/MO

They WILL absolutely without a doubt breed through the fence. I call it the Flying Sperm Syndrome, and we had it happen a couple of years ago. I had planned on milking two does through, but they and the buck managed to get together. The does were NEVER put in the buck pen or vise versa, and I never caught an escapee.

I no longer pasture them in adjacent pastures with just a cattle panel or net wire fence between.

LOL! Yep. I remember that, Alice!

The ladies in waiting are penned next to the bucks & I keep telling DH that it is time that they join the adult girls in the "adult girls" pen - isn't fall interesting?

[motdaugrnds]

Good job Mamato3!!