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07/24/11, 11:35 PM
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Help needed! Sick doe
Please help if you can...we just returned home from our son's wedding out of town and our 7 yr old Alpineherd queen, Lilly, is not right at all. She is stumbling around like she is weak and/or can't see, her pupils are huge and not reacting to a flashlight...she doesn't see to have many bowel sounds...she does react when we talk to her and when her 1 yr old wether is separated from her. We live in Michigan and the heat indexes have been over 110 for about the last week. None of the other goats (3) are acting weird. We got her to drink some water, baking soda and she is nibbling on hay. I also gave her more wormer, CMPK, Vitamin B and probios.
Our house sitters and animal sitters are really great with the animals and called us as we were driving home to say she didn't look right.
We will be calling the vet in the a.m. if needed. Any help would be appreciated.
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Gina
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07/24/11, 11:37 PM
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http://www.tennesseemeatgoats.com/ar...steriosis.html
Sounds like Polio, but maybe Listeriosis - the link above has the actions to take - and do so quick - usually we treat for both, just in case
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07/24/11, 11:45 PM
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What Creamers said.
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07/24/11, 11:55 PM
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Thanks...I have Procane Penicillin, do I give IM or subq?
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07/25/11, 12:34 AM
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Subq will work faster.
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07/25/11, 04:41 AM
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Get some thiamine in her if all you can get is the b complex injectable the do it on massive dose sizes but if it is the above you can normally see a difference in just a hour or less, they wont be cured but you can tell a difference.
Menigial worm also can cause this though its presenting more as polio
this is a picture of a doe that I had that had the worm, then came down with the polio as a secondary, she kept her head like that and her mouth open. I kept her in a pool in my living room for several days before she stablized.
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/d...1010002-10.jpg
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07/25/11, 07:11 AM
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I got up this morning at 6am to give her another injection of pen and Vitamin B, went out to the barn and she looks a tad bit better...I think she stood up all night but she looks perkier..
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07/25/11, 08:23 AM
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We are loading her up and heading to our goat vet about an hour away...I need to know what is going on with her....she is one of our four favorite goats (we only have four). I will let you know how it goes.
Thank you so much for the quick responses and detailed information!!!!
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07/25/11, 09:10 AM
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Good luck, and please let is know how it goes~
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07/25/11, 09:25 AM
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I will be checking back in also.
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07/25/11, 11:00 AM
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Watching and waiting to see how it goes.
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07/25/11, 02:31 PM
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Hoping for the best!
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07/25/11, 02:49 PM
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Any news on your girl yet? Hope she gets better soon.
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07/25/11, 02:59 PM
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Thank you for your wonderful advice...I think it absolutely made a difference in her living!!!
We took her to the vet and she was way more perky and headstrong than she ever could have been last night...
Our regular goat vet is at the fair all week, so they referred us to a large animal vet that I don't usually use because he doesn't care if you have questions or not he just comes in and looks at the animal and walks out...I kid you not I was following him around asking questions because he wouldn't stop...they wouldn't even let us bring her in the building because goats are not potty trained...anyway....
He looked at her ears and said it looks more like polio. 
He gave her a shot of straight thamine and two more for the next two days...she was trying to eat all the leaves outside his office and getting back to her headstrong self....one thing I noticed was that once she was in the truck, her pupils and eyes were not bulging out like they had been last night and her eyes look more normal...do I sound crazy or what?
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07/25/11, 03:03 PM
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tks 4 the up date, glad she is getting better.
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07/25/11, 03:06 PM
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Thanks Nancy! Actually we were just down your way this weekend...Our son was married in Dickson, Tn, close to Nashville, but they live in Knoxville.
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07/25/11, 03:32 PM
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Glad to hear your girl is doing better. Keep up the thiamine (or B-complex) - the great thing is you can't really overdose it, as it's water-soluble and they'll just pee it out. I'd keep her on the penicillin for another few days - five, maybe, and see how she's doing. You'll want to dump her milk for a couple of weeks at the very least, after you stop the penicillin.
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07/25/11, 03:46 PM
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Thanks Pookshollow, I planned on keeping up with the thiamine but, he didn't say anything about the Penicillin....I was thinking that I was more worried about her rumen getting back to normal and wouldn't giving the penicillin work against her rumen getting back to normal? Please let me know what you think....also, I have been giving her Probios gel and powder, should I be giving her some live culture yogurt or something for her rumen? It sure doesn't look at big and healthy as it used to....
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07/25/11, 05:59 PM
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Glad to hear she is better 
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07/25/11, 06:27 PM
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She is gritting her teeth, should I give her a small amount of banamine?
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