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06/28/11, 06:55 PM
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Need Help W/Kid
10 wk old buckling. This morning when I went out to the pen he was crying. Holding his head slightly to one side. No temp. Started him on Fortified B in case of polio. Checked him over for any signs of injury or swelling. Appetite fine. Eliminations normal. I didn't hear him crying after the morning and he seemed a shade improved this afternoon. But obviously uncomfortable, in some pain, not his usual playful self and still holding his head a bit odd. I thought maybe an ear infection but wouldn't he have a fever?
Any ideas and treatment?
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06/28/11, 07:05 PM
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Can you give us some info on his care regimen? Has he had his vaccinations? Is he on cocci prevention? What is he getting to eat? Have you dewormed him?
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06/28/11, 07:28 PM
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He's been wormed, treated for cocci, no CD&T, a commercial 16% pelled grain with BOSS and some alfalfa pellets. Been totally healthy to this point. Nothing he could have gotten into. If no improvement by tomorrow he'll be taken to the vet.
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06/28/11, 08:34 PM
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No hay or grass or browse? Are you *sure* you've seen him pee? I don't know how young they can get urinary stones, but the buck I lost to stones did that standing with his head tilted and crying.
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06/28/11, 08:51 PM
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I just took it for granted about the hay. Yes, he gets hay and some browse. And absolutely I've seen him pee a few times today. But tonight I saw some white nasal discharge so I'm wondering about pneumonia? Can goats get pneumonia without showing a fever? It's 102.4 right on the money.
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06/28/11, 10:06 PM
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Snotty nose and pneumonia are two different issues, but I really don't know the answer to your question. Pneumonia would sound rattly in his chest.
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06/28/11, 10:43 PM
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What was he dewormed with, what dosage & how long ago?
Do you have any banamine? Dose is 1cc per 100lbs.....wouldn't hurt him.
Could he have been hit or hurt by a larger goat?
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06/28/11, 10:44 PM
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Also....what color & consistency is the nasal discharge?
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06/28/11, 11:01 PM
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Wormed on the 18th w/Ivermectin. Haven't seen a lot of discharge - he sneezed a white, fairly thick small amount. I was thinking that too about could he have been kicked. He was better during the afternoon and then worse again this evening. This one really baffles me and if I don't see improvement tomorrow he will see the vet.
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06/29/11, 05:22 PM
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How is he doing today?
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06/29/11, 06:34 PM
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Checking in.... any news?
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06/29/11, 10:14 PM
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My guy was jumping and running today! I put him on antibiotic and Fortified B and he just turned around. He was one pretty sick acting boy - crying is never a good sign. I was jubilant and hope he continues. I knew when I saw him mounting does this morning he was feeling pretty good!
Thanks for all the concern.
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06/29/11, 10:17 PM
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Whew!! Great news and good job on your part!! 
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06/30/11, 01:07 PM
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Glad he is doing better!
Just for future reference, pnuemonia can be silent and deadly. A rattle in the chest is actually rarely heard. "Walking pnuemonia" is called that because an animal can have it and seem almost normal, just not quite their usual self. Then one day they are dead. Don't count on pnuemonia to anounce itself loud and clear. Especially summer pnuemonia.
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06/30/11, 04:03 PM
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The head tilt led me to think polio; sadly these diseases can pile up on each other (as in polio=downed goat=puemonia=digestion issues). Since he responded so well to the thiamine, I would actually repeat it. It cannot hurt and can only help. Just my 2 cents.
I am glad he turned the corner.
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07/01/11, 09:31 PM
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Unfortunately, after 3 days of acting normal, this evening my boy was crying again. Now I suspect a bladder infection. He is not straining to urinate, or any of the stop and go/ dribbling that suggests UC, but is peeing more frequently than normal and clearly uncomfortable. I think I was so leaning in the direction of polio and a respiratory ailment, I had blinders on for this possible cause. It would make sense to me, because if you've ever had a bladder infection, it is burning and painful and you go a lot.
I kept him on the B but stupidly didn't give him the full course of antibiotic. I could kick myself.
I just hope it's only an infection and not a blockage. And here we are headed into a long holiday weekend with no access to the vet til next week.
What does everyone think??
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07/01/11, 10:03 PM
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If you've got Ammonium Chloride, I'd start it daily. If you've got an antibiotic, start that, too.
I hate weekends.
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07/01/11, 11:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alice In TX/MO
If you've got Ammonium Chloride, I'd start it daily. If you've got an antibiotic, start that, too.
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Ditto to all three comments.
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07/02/11, 07:01 AM
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Started him on the antibiotic at 8:30 last night. Checked him at 11:00 and he was standing in the barn looking miserable. This morning at 6:00 he's jumping and playing with his penmates! Same pattern as before. I've never had a UC experience but does it act this way? Does it sound more like a bladder infection? This time I'm keeping him on the med for the full course and see how he goes. And will get AC into him. He does get it in his feed.
Very baffling.
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07/02/11, 08:47 AM
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There isn't enough in the feed store feed (even if it's listed on the label), I can tell you from horrible experience.
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