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06/16/11, 02:09 PM
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Rasw Milk Dangers....Just curious......
I recently contacted the Ohio Dept of Health to find out how many problems have there been from people drinking raw milk. They referred me to the CDC web site. Here are a couple links to the CDC web site.
The first is an "Atlas" of food exposures. The survey was done in a few states, with the expectation that they would be representative of the entire country. I am going to use a "ballpark figure" (average of the states surveyed) of 3% of the population drinks raw milk. (I believe it is page 13 of the PDF document.)
http://www.cdc.gov/foodnet/surveys/F...as0607_508.pdf
The second is a link to reprted illnesses, 'state-by-state.' You can look up your state and you can look down the list and count how many cases they have of people getting sick from drinking raw milk. I believe that there are 11 years of data on this site.) Pay close attention....if they see that someone is sick, and they reportedly drank raw milk, then it will be reported as "suspected," or "implicated." See if there are any "confirmed" cases of people getting sick from drinking raw milk.
http://wwwn.cdc.gov/foodborneoutbreaks/
In Ohio.....over 11 years (population of Ohio is about 11 million, so 3 % would mean that over 300.000 Ohio residents drink raw milk.
Over 11 years.......(unless I missed something):
confrimed cases of anyone getting sick from drinking raw milk......'0,' as in 'zero'
'implicated' incidents......'1,' as in 'one.'
300,000 people over 11 years.......zero confirmed cases.
Just how dangerous is raw milk????
It would be interesting if other people looked up their states on the CDC site, and posted the incidents here.
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06/16/11, 02:15 PM
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Sorry about the misspelling of "Raw" in the title......and it will not let me edit it. Oh well......
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06/16/11, 02:45 PM
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Raw milk is bad for goats, but okay for people.
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06/16/11, 02:52 PM
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Great info!
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06/16/11, 03:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by houndlover
Raw milk is bad for goats, but okay for people.
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what??
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06/16/11, 03:34 PM
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LOL CAE preventive~ pasteurize the milk for babies raised on CAE prevention~ then drink the milk raw yourself~ thus
Raw milk is bad for goats, but okay for people
LOL! I get it!
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06/16/11, 03:37 PM
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Billoo2-- That is an awesome site. I am going to be playing on it a lot. That you so very much for posting it. It is so interesting.
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06/16/11, 04:11 PM
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I was surprised by the numbers in Utah...In 8 years there were 75 cases, 2 incidents were from individual families and the rest were from an event center...Maybe from improper handling?
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06/16/11, 04:14 PM
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I don't see any from WV or Ky, either
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06/16/11, 04:40 PM
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Missouri has 4 people with 2 being hospitalized.
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06/16/11, 04:59 PM
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There where 8 people to get sick, 87 people got sick from the same bacteria Campylobacterjejuni from tap water
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06/16/11, 05:32 PM
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Looks as if Michigan had 6 @ a church or temple (confirmed). Very small percentage reported for sure!!
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06/16/11, 05:43 PM
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Show us your teats!!
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Thank you CDC for confirming what all of us already know - RAW MILK ROCKS!!!! Let me belly up to the bar and pour myself a nice glass of fresh from the teat raw flippin' mik - ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
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06/16/11, 05:50 PM
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Quote:
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Raw milk is bad for goats, but okay for people.
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What??? I've never even heard that before...
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06/16/11, 05:52 PM
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50 from unpasteurized milk 1 hospitalized
5 from raw milk
no deaths
all of that from an 8 year time frame
What cracks me up is Salmonella case 716 where effected, 166 hospitalized, with 9 deaths. Peanut butter and paste.
And people are worried about raw milk.
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06/16/11, 06:02 PM
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Those are great links. In Oregon though the numbers are larger I know several people with mexican heritage that brag about treating raw cheese and milk in a manner that I'm sure leads to a lot of illnesses (those are people I won't sell too). So it's a toss up how many of the sick was due to handling the product poorly as apposed to it being tainted before they received it.
I 100% trust the milk and dairy products I make on my farm but when treated improperly any product can make a person sick.
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06/16/11, 06:14 PM
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What??? I've never even heard that before...
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some goat diseases are spread thru colostrum and milk, straight from the mother. therefore, to control these, many goat raisers pasturize the milk fed to kids, esp if the milk is pooled from all the does.
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06/16/11, 06:24 PM
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In Washington over 11 years there were 32 people to get sick from raw milk or raw cheese. All was from Campylobacter. However in that same time frame there were 165 people who got sick from Campylobacter from other sources mostly restuarants, schools, prison and church. . So maybe the law should be that all schools restuarants, churches and prisons should have a large label on the front door that says :
We serve food that could make you sick. All foods carry a risk for food borne illnesses that may especially affect the elderly, children and people with weaker immune systems. Please eat our food at your own risk. Any food not for human consumption will be dyed blue.
Maybe I will send a copy of this stuff to the Washington Dept of Agriculture.
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06/16/11, 07:46 PM
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Just finished "the Untold Story of Milk" and aside from a little political bias some good info but a heck of a read... Lots of facts and written by a doctor but what I got out of it is raw milk = good for you!
Best milk I ever had was while in Oklahoma as a teenager, my friends parents took their bottles out to a farm and came back with real milk. Not pasty water like what I buy now...
Does that CDC site list how many cases of illness and death from pasteurized milk?
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06/16/11, 08:04 PM
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And yet raw milk sales are strictly illegal here in Ohio.
Ironically, it's o.k. to sell cigarettes, though.
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